2019-20 Stamps and CFL off-season thread

[calf]

Originally Posted by transplant99

What the hell did he say?

Must have been pretty bad stuff to get pink slipped the next day.

He made the choice really easy for the Esks

https://trib.al/7CpWjTt

[dash_pinched]

Originally Posted by transplant99

What the hell did he say?

Must have been pretty bad stuff to get pink slipped the next day.

Deleted tweet:

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by dash_pinched

Deleted tweet:

From the article on it.

As of Sunday morning, Jones had not initially deleted his tweet and had defended it in a series of follow-up tweets

[Slanter]

Not surprisingly, Edmonton is having a tough time looking credible on these issues:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/e...t-mp-1.5593518

[corporatejay]

Would people be okay with "Esks". Edmonton Esks, keeps the "tradition" without using the term. I may be wrong about this, but Eskimo isn't prima facie racist, just ignorant.


Edit: Wouldn't even have to change their website.

https://www.esks.com/

[Johnny Makarov]

Edmonton Yellow Greens

[Slanter]

Wait, wait... You know what would be better? Edmonton YELLOWGREENS

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by Slanter

Wait, wait... You know what would be better? Edmonton YELLOWGREENS

Not as good as Edmonton YELLOWGREEN MCDAVIDS.

[dash_pinched]

Edmonton is keeping the 'Eskimos" name...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1279117801240707072

https://3downnation.com/2020/07/03/e...ng-their-name/

[calf]

Or: There was no consensus, so we went with the easy way out.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by calf

Or: There was no consensus, so we went with the easy way out.

Which is what makes this whole ordeal complex, and it's not black and white.

I think that if these terms are of endearment, then those that are suppose to be represented for the most part take no issue with it. Eskimos, Blackhawks, Braves, Seminoles are terms that in my opinion make you think of aboriginals fondly. Kinda like Fighting Irish for the Norte Dame team. We're not taking issue with them in this debate.

The only people's opinion that matters on this is the aboriginals themselves. And if a significant majority of them are fine with it, than there's not a need to change it. So that's why when these teams do these investigations, they're likely getting enough to support to justify keeping the name since it's not a term that's meant to be used in a offensive context.

The only team that probably should have their names changed are the Washington Redskins, and the Cleveland Indians. Those are ones that I could imagine may not have that much support within the aboriginal community.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by calf

Or: There was no consensus, so we went with the easy way out.

What percentage of indigenous people need to find it offensive for you to want them to change it? 1? 10?

[troutman]

Originally Posted by calf

Or: There was no consensus, so we went with the easy way out.

I read that to say there are still assessing the question.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Fire

If people can turn words like "thug" and make them racist can't we make other words that might have been racist in the past like "Eskimos" into non-racist words?

Thug is racist in the proper (or improper) context. It’s not catch-all racist.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by dash_pinched

Deleted tweet:

Wow, what a hill to die on in 2020.

[dash_pinched]

TSN has named the All-Stampeder team which is below (video at the bottom of this post)

*denotes National

Head Coach – Wally Buono (1990-2002)

Quarterback – Doug Flutie (1992-95)
Running Back – Jon Cornish (2007-15)*
Running Back – Kelvin Anderson (1996-2002)
Receiver – Allen Pitts (1990-2000)
Receiver – Nik Lewis (2004-14)
Receiver – Herm Harrison (1964-72)
Receiver – Dave Sapunjis (1990-96)*
Offensive Line – Rocco Romano (1987, 1992-2000)*
Offensive Line – Tony Pajaczkowski (1955-65)*
Offensive Line – Harry Langford (1950-58)*
Offensive Line – Lloyd Fairbanks (1975-82, 1989-91)*
Offensive Line – Fred Childress (1996-2003)

Defensive Line – Will Johnson (1989-96)
Defensive Line – John Helton (1969-78)
Defensive Line – Stu Laird (1984-96)*
Defensive Line – Charleston Hughes (2008-17)
Linebacker – Wayne Harris (1961-72)
Linebacker – Alondra Johnson (1991-2003)
Linebacker – Alex Singleton (2016-18)*
Defensive Back – Darryl Hall (1990-92, 1996-2000)
Defensive Back – Larry Robinson (1961-74)*
Defensive Back – Harvey Wylie (1956-64)*
Defensive Back – Keon Raymond (2008-15)
Defensive Back – Brandon Smith (2008-19)

Placekicker – Rene Paredes (2011-Present)*
Punter – Rob Maver (2010-19)*
Special Teamer – Randy Chevrier (2005-15)*

Foundational – Willie Burden (1974-81)
Foundational – Jerry Keeling (1961-72)
Foundational – Tom Forzani (1973-83)*

The Stampeders Canadian content stands out on their all-time team with a whopping 14 nationals named, double the number required.

Doug Flutie beat out other legendary quarterbacks, including Henry Burris and Bo Levi Mitchell, while receiver Allen Pitts and linebacker Wayne Harris were shoe-in candidates as some of the greatest ever at their positions.

Kicker Rene Paredes was the lone current player on the list, with punter Rob Maver and DB Brandon Smith making the team the same offseason in which they retired.

https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/video/tsn-s-a...peders~1988878

[transplant99]

Just stumbled on this...voting on the CFL all decade team at WR and DB...no surprise there is no shortage of Stampeders as candidates.

Voting ends Sunday.


https://www.cfl.ca/2010s-all-decade-...eid=40cce91a89

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by dash_pinched

TSN has named the All-Stampeder team which is below (video at the bottom of this post)

*denotes National

Head Coach – Wally Buono (1990-2002)

Quarterback – Doug Flutie (1992-95)
Running Back – Jon Cornish (2007-15)*
Running Back – Kelvin Anderson (1996-2002)
Receiver – Allen Pitts (1990-2000)
Receiver – Nik Lewis (2004-14)
Receiver – Herm Harrison (1964-72)
Receiver – Dave Sapunjis (1990-96)*
Offensive Line – Rocco Romano (1987, 1992-2000)*
Offensive Line – Tony Pajaczkowski (1955-65)*
Offensive Line – Harry Langford (1950-58)*
Offensive Line – Lloyd Fairbanks (1975-82, 1989-91)*
Offensive Line – Fred Childress (1996-2003)

Defensive Line – Will Johnson (1989-96)
Defensive Line – John Helton (1969-78)
Defensive Line – Stu Laird (1984-96)*
Defensive Line – Charleston Hughes (2008-17)
Linebacker – Wayne Harris (1961-72)
Linebacker – Alondra Johnson (1991-2003)
Linebacker – Alex Singleton (2016-18)*
Defensive Back – Darryl Hall (1990-92, 1996-2000)
Defensive Back – Larry Robinson (1961-74)*
Defensive Back – Harvey Wylie (1956-64)*
Defensive Back – Keon Raymond (2008-15)
Defensive Back – Brandon Smith (2008-19)

Placekicker – Rene Paredes (2011-Present)*
Punter – Rob Maver (2010-19)*
Special Teamer – Randy Chevrier (2005-15)*

Foundational – Willie Burden (1974-81)
Foundational – Jerry Keeling (1961-72)
Foundational – Tom Forzani (1973-83)*

The Stampeders Canadian content stands out on their all-time team with a whopping 14 nationals named, double the number required.

Doug Flutie beat out other legendary quarterbacks, including Henry Burris and Bo Levi Mitchell, while receiver Allen Pitts and linebacker Wayne Harris were shoe-in candidates as some of the greatest ever at their positions.

Kicker Rene Paredes was the lone current player on the list, with punter Rob Maver and DB Brandon Smith making the team the same offseason in which they retired.

https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/video/tsn-s-a...peders~1988878

Flutie, Pitts and the Sponge.

I cannot believe they only won one Grey Cup in Calgary.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by dash_pinched

Edmonton is keeping the 'Eskimos" name...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1279117801240707072

https://3downnation.com/2020/07/03/e...ng-their-name/

Originally Posted by troutman

I read that to say there are still assessing the question.

That’s exactly what it says. They haven’t firmly decided to keep the name.

[dash_pinched]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1279589496527314945