06-24-2019, 03:01 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Stars acquire Ryan Hartman for Tyler Pitlick. UPD: Stars don't qualify Hartman
https://www.nhl.com/flyers/news/flye...rs/c-308036448
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The Philadelphia Flyers announced they have acquired center Tyler Pitlick from the Dallas Stars in exchange for forward Ryan Hartman, according to Executive Vice President & General Manager, Chuck Fletcher.
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06-24-2019, 03:01 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Hartman is RFA with arbitration rights.
Pitlick has 1 year left @ $1mil before UFA.
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06-24-2019, 03:03 PM
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First round-bust
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Philadelphia acquired Hartman from Nashville at the deadline in the Simmonds trade.
This trade seems indicative that Hartman has lost a lot of value leaguewide since being acquired by Nashville from Chicago for a first-rounder and more.
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06-24-2019, 03:03 PM
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Uncle Chester
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Boy has Hartman fallen in value the last couple of years.
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06-24-2019, 03:04 PM
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#5
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Lifetime Suspension
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Ryan "the volleyball" Hartman
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06-24-2019, 03:04 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Philadelphia acquired Hartman from Nashville at the deadline in the Simmonds trade.
This trade seems indicative that Hartman has lost a lot of value leaguewide since being acquired by Nashville from Chicago for a first-rounder and more.
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That or teams are afraid of what he might get in arbitration.
Remember teams can't walkaway from awards of less than ~$4.5 million.
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06-24-2019, 03:07 PM
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First round-bust
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
That or teams are afraid of what he might get in arbitration.
Remember teams can't walkaway from awards of less than ~$4.5 million.
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I think those two might go hand-in-hand. Hartman's realtime value has decreased substantially, but teams are afraid that an arbitrator might look at faraway historical data in determining a decision.
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06-24-2019, 03:10 PM
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Franchise Player
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Is there much reason to think that a player with a career high 31 points, lifetime career 89 points, is going to get 4.5M in arbitration?
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06-24-2019, 03:12 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
Is there much reason to think that a player with a career high 31 points, lifetime career 89 points, is going to get 4.5M in arbitration?
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Nobody said he was going to get $4.5 mil.
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06-24-2019, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
Is there much reason to think that a player with a career high 31 points, lifetime career 89 points, is going to get 4.5M in arbitration?
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No.. but the Arbitrator may award him 3.0M and the team can not walk away from that. They will be forced to pay him that amount.
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06-24-2019, 03:34 PM
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Franchise Player
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Oh yeah, sorry misread.
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06-24-2019, 03:35 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Nobody said he was going to get $4.5 mil.
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Originally Posted by Hes
No.. but the Arbitrator may award him 3.0M and the team can not walk away from that. They will be forced to pay him that amount.
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haha. I can't believe this needed explaining.
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06-24-2019, 05:01 PM
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Closet Jedi
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Good move for Philly capwise. Best not to pay 3rd/4th liners. Pitlick is the cheaper option, and I'm not sure he's even the worse player.
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06-24-2019, 08:07 PM
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First Line Centre
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Another post-Oiler bump in value.
The Oilers are the NHL’s version of Kijiji where you can find value from second hand assets that the original owners are too stupid to maximize value from.
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06-24-2019, 08:13 PM
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First Line Centre
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John Shannon was raving about the Oilers depth of Defense prospects, which are a joke compared league wide. At best their average.
Pitlick, Oesterle, even Petry are examples for how they can’t develop anything.
What’s Holland going to actually change?
Maybe he won’t let a guy like Pitlick slip away for nothing, but he’ll do it by overpaying him a wage closer to Petry’s.
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06-25-2019, 03:07 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Stars did not qualify Hartman. He can become UFA.
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06-25-2019, 03:09 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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well that's, weird?... just a way to get the # of contracts down I guess for the Stars?
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06-25-2019, 03:10 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icon
well that's, weird?... just a way to get the # of contracts down I guess for the Stars?
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Not that weird. They didn't want to get locked in by an arbitration award.
Going to gamble now they can get a deal done before another team can sign him.
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06-25-2019, 03:11 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Not that weird. They didn't want to get locked in by an arbitration award.
Going to gamble now they can get a deal done before another team can sign him.
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aaaaaaah i forgot about the arbitration. gotcha
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06-25-2019, 03:45 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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I'd take Hartman here for sure.
Especially if we move Frolik and need more RW depth.
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