06-26-2019, 03:04 PM
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#121
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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06-26-2019, 03:14 PM
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#122
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Fearmongerer
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Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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06-26-2019, 03:42 PM
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#123
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
He will probably become the goalie coach in Florida.
Would be a great mentor for Knight. I think they drafted him..
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Working to confirm
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06-26-2019, 04:06 PM
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#124
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Hated him as a Canuck for obvious reasons but he was always a class act and funny guy off the ice. He had a great career and I think he'll make the hall of fame eventually. Thanks for screwing over the Canucks one last time before retiring 
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06-26-2019, 04:13 PM
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#125
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Franchise Player
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Looking at his stats, he's a lock for the HOF, likely as a first year eligible.
On hockey reference, his similars are Sawchuck, Brodeur, Esposito, Plante, Hall, Roy, some of the best goalies ever. That's his peer group.
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06-26-2019, 04:56 PM
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#128
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If Luongo is a Hall of Famer I think you could make a case for Kipper. I think the Hall is a little stingy with goalies. The hall just inducted a 0.5 pt/game forward over a bunch of goalies with better stats relative to their position.
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06-26-2019, 04:58 PM
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#129
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Looking at his stats, he's a lock for the HOF, likely as a first year eligible.
On hockey reference, his similars are Sawchuck, Brodeur, Esposito, Plante, Hall, Roy, some of the best goalies ever. That's his peer group.
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There's a couple of glaring absences from Luongo's trophy case that sets him apart from those guys.
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06-26-2019, 05:51 PM
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#130
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
There's a couple of glaring absences from Luongo's trophy case that sets him apart from those guys.
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Yet they are considered very similar to him based on all the stats, including trophies.
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06-26-2019, 06:25 PM
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#131
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
If Luongo is a Hall of Famer I think you could make a case for Kipper. I think the Hall is a little stingy with goalies. The hall just inducted a 0.5 pt/game forward over a bunch of goalies with better stats relative to their position.
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Vernon has a stronger case than either of them, and he just got snubbed again.
Kipper wouldn't show up to the induction ceremony anyway 😁
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06-26-2019, 08:30 PM
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#132
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Franchise Player
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How does Vernon have a stronger case? That's crazy talk.
He made exactly one all star team. All he has going for him over those guys is one Conn Smythe, and that's only because the team he was playing on happened to win the final in question - had either Luongo or Kipper won theirs they'd have gotten it too, most likely.
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06-26-2019, 08:53 PM
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#133
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Calgary, Canada
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A couple of thoughts on Bobby Lou
1) It must hurt him and it would have been nice for him to be able to play another season and get to 500 wins. That's a very nice number that will be very very hard to get to for goalies on a go forward basis. He's one of the last type of workhorse goalies year after year where you can ride the guy hard and he played 60+ games a year for a lot of years.
2) I always found it interesting how controversial he was in Vancouver considering his level of performance and the team's performance. I get it, the guy might have been a jerk a few times sure. Kipper was and is still beloved in Calgary by almost everybody!
3) Given his numbers and his other hockey accomplishments, he will be in the HOF soon, no question about it. More and more players are going to go entire careers without winning the big one, its a fact of the sport. The days of the multiple cup winners are rare and the days where some players have more cup rings than they have fingers are going to be over.
4) As for Vernon, he belongs in the Hall for a bunch of reasons that I have said over and over before. He played and won in the high flying 80's and early 90's he played and won in the shut down and trap era of the mid 90's and he played in the early 2000's. 3 different decades of NHL hockey with the numbers and hardware to boot. I'd put Kipper in if I was voting cause the guy carried some bad Flames club's with his heroics when you look back, his 300+ wins are impressive considering how many years he was an NHL starter for in Calgary but I don't know if he has the overall high end numbers of the hall.
Ohh, and wtf is up with Theo not being in the HOF and getting his jersey retired?? To whomever is in charge of this stuff, nevermind the BS
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06-26-2019, 08:56 PM
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#134
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
How does Vernon have a stronger case? That's crazy talk.
He made exactly one all star team. All he has going for him over those guys is one Conn Smythe, and that's only because the team he was playing on happened to win the final in question - had either Luongo or Kipper won theirs they'd have gotten it too, most likely.
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Yes, "only one" Conn Smythe. For being the MVP on a Cup winning team. His second cup.
There isn't a goalie in the league who would rank a Vezina or a strong run to the finals above a Conn Smythe or a Cup ring.
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06-27-2019, 08:22 AM
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#135
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 127.0.0.1
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Luongo Hate-o-meter down to 0.
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06-27-2019, 08:29 AM
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#136
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Press Level
Yes, "only one" Conn Smythe. For being the MVP on a Cup winning team. His second cup.
There isn't a goalie in the league who would rank a Vezina or a strong run to the finals above a Conn Smythe or a Cup ring.
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That’s true... but JS Giguere isn’t getting in the hall of fame either.
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06-27-2019, 08:35 AM
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#137
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Franchise Player
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Imagine if Hasek never won the cup in his late years as a passenger in Detroit. Would he be on the outside looking in?
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06-27-2019, 08:45 AM
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#138
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
Imagine if Hasek never won the cup in his late years as a passenger in Detroit. Would he be on the outside looking in?
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Hasek won six Vezina Trophies, two Harts, and two Lester B Pearson awards. Even without the Cup win he was on a completely other level.
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06-27-2019, 08:47 AM
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#139
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
How does Vernon have a stronger case? That's crazy talk.
He made exactly one all star team. All he has going for him over those guys is one Conn Smythe, and that's only because the team he was playing on happened to win the final in question - had either Luongo or Kipper won theirs they'd have gotten it too, most likely.
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"all he has going for him is being judged the most valuable player in the playoffs to his stanley cup winning team."
"All he has going for him is being the absolute pinnacle of his profession on the grandest stage of his industry."
Last edited by Flash Walken; 06-27-2019 at 08:54 AM.
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06-27-2019, 08:49 AM
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#140
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
Imagine if Hasek never won the cup in his late years as a passenger in Detroit. Would he be on the outside looking in?
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No
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