02-02-2019, 01:03 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Flames recall D Rinat Valiev from Stockton
Presumably because Hamonic is a no go for tomorrow and that would leave the Flames with 6 d-men only. No word on Hamonic's condition.
https://www.nhl.com/flames/news/flam...?tid=282300716
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The Calgary Flames announce today they have recalled defenceman Rinat Valiev from the Stockton Heat of the American Hockey League.
Valiev, a native of Nizhnekamsk, Russia was traded to the Flames on October 1, 2018 from the Montreal Canadiens. The 23-year-old defenceman was drafted by the Toronto Maple Leafs in the third round (68th overall) in the 2014 NHL Draft. Valiev has one goal and 11 assists for 12 points in 36 games for the Stockton Heat this season.
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Last edited by sureLoss; 02-02-2019 at 01:06 PM.
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02-02-2019, 01:05 PM
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#2
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Calgary
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A Russian on the roster? Fancy that.
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02-02-2019, 01:36 PM
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#3
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Russian but also a WHL grad, and fairly big.
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02-02-2019, 01:38 PM
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Franchise Player
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Can anyone comment on his play?
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02-02-2019, 02:11 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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That was not the recall I was expecting.
Ok, so this means any of the following might be true:
-Hamonic may have tweaked something, but it isn't so bad that he'll be out long term. Valiev is only up in case something happens to a player on game day.
-Valimaki isn't game ready yet. He might need a few more games to get up to NHL level conditioning etc.
-Stone is close to returning, so no need to rush Valimaki back up to the bigs. Conditioning won't be an issue for Stone since he's been skating the entire time.
Other than that, I'm not exactly sure of the reasons here to bring up Valiev.
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02-02-2019, 02:17 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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This actually makes a fair amount of sense to me. I figured they'd probably call up Valiev -- he has NHL experience, he's still only 23, and he's big but a solid puck-mover. Was highly thought-of in Toronto for a little while. I think he makes some sense, especially if Valimaki isn't quite ready yet.
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02-02-2019, 02:18 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Does anyone know the expansion draft status for valimaki if he is called up after the regular season? Does he already need to be protected? If not, how many more games does he have to play before he needs to be protected in the draft? Do playoff games count towards that limit?
If the team continues to have success, it may be in their best long term interest to keep him in the ahl to avoid having to protect him in the upcoming expansion draft.
Thanks in advance!
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02-02-2019, 02:21 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Valimaki will need to be protected in 2021: he'll be a third-year pro by then. 22 games as a rookie counts as a pro season. Assuming he plays the next two years, he'll be eligible.
Further: Valiev has been used on the right side at times in Stockton. Primarily plays left.
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02-02-2019, 02:28 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
That was not the recall I was expecting.
Ok, so this means any of the following might be true:
-Hamonic may have tweaked something, but it isn't so bad that he'll be out long term. Valiev is only up in case something happens to a player on game day.
-Valimaki isn't game ready yet. He might need a few more games to get up to NHL level conditioning etc.
-Stone is close to returning, so no need to rush Valimaki back up to the bigs. Conditioning won't be an issue for Stone since he's been skating the entire time.
Other than that, I'm not exactly sure of the reasons here to bring up Valiev.
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To me it seems pretty straightforward - the team does not want Kylington or Valimaki on their off-wing, and would rather play Prout on his strong wing. So there's no point sitting Valimaki in the press box.
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02-02-2019, 02:55 PM
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Franchise Player
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why not Healey?
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02-02-2019, 03:29 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by killer_carlson
why not Healey?
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It doesn't much matter other than an increased paycheque.
Healey hasn't done much on the farm so Valiev is the more obvious choice.
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02-02-2019, 04:44 PM
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Franchise Player
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Last few years have been great with all the WHL grads and draft picks cracking the lineup. I know nothing about Valiev, but I think it's cool that he is with the Flames even for a couple of games and an insurance policy.
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02-02-2019, 05:15 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by SeanCharles
It doesn't much matter other than an increased paycheque.
Healey hasn't done much on the farm so Valiev is the more obvious choice.
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Healey hasn't done much except come into prospect camp in the best shape of anyone there.
Small rewards for a guy like that are a good thing. Call up Healey
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02-02-2019, 05:52 PM
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Adam Ollas-Mattsson leads the Heat in +/-, surprised he's not the call up.
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02-02-2019, 06:00 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Originally Posted by cannon7
Adam Ollas-Mattsson leads the Heat in +/-, surprised he's not the call up.
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He doesn't have an NHL contract, just on an AHL deal
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02-04-2019, 11:26 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Haven't watched any of the games, but interesting to note that Valimaki has 3 points in 4 games since going down. he will definitely be back up before the season is over I think. Will be tough to get minutes from Kylington or Andersson though.
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02-04-2019, 11:54 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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Originally Posted by bax
Haven't watched any of the games, but interesting to note that Valimaki has 3 points in 4 games since going down. he will definitely be back up before the season is over I think. Will be tough to get minutes from Kylington or Andersson though.
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TBH I'd rather have Jusso down in the farm over sitting in the pressbox. Unless the Flames trade one of Kylington/Andersson for a big player - I just don't see him forcing his way back into the lineup.
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02-04-2019, 12:06 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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He won’t be sitting in the press box for long up here he is really good. I think some posters forget how good he was before his injury.
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02-04-2019, 12:07 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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On the topic of the thread... I'd like to see Valiev given a game, preferably against the Canucks on the 9th. Just to see what the Flames have in him.
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02-04-2019, 12:09 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by MrMike
He won’t be sitting in the press box for long up here he is really good. I think some posters forget how good he was before his injury.
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He was good, but objectively speaking he was not better than Giordano, Hanifin, or Kylington have been at LD.
If Valimaki can play RD he would be an upgrade on Andersson/Stone/Prout - but that doesn't mean we are going to play him in that role.
So what would happen is that he would either sit in the press box, or play ahead of Kylington who has outplayed him this year.
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