02-20-2019, 04:13 AM
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#261
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by corporatejay
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My word, that’s well written.
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02-21-2019, 10:25 AM
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#262
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Good article today on Kylington and his upbringing in hockey and his relationship with Oduya - https://theathletic.com/810594/2019/...se-to-the-nhl/
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Thanks in part to this network of support — encouraging father, inspiring mother, willing mentor — he is coming of age. And not only on the ice. Feedback from Flames staffers these days is that Kylington has taken a step.
“It’s gratifying to see that they grow as humans, too — that’s something that is forgotten sometimes,” Loob said. “It’s hidden behind you being a really, really talented hockey player. But that’s not enough to make it in the big leagues. You have to understand that mature relationships with other players, with coaches, is something that you have to reach out and get. If you don’t care about relationships, it’s going to be pretty tough to have anybody respect you.”
Dad describes a similar arc of development — from the little boy who struggled with his skating, to the teenage sensation in Sweden, to the minor-leaguer in North America, to the young man earning regular spins in the NHL.
“I’m also very, very happy about the person he has become,” Borje said. “That’s something to be proud of — how he’s become such a good young man.”
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02-21-2019, 06:35 PM
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#263
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
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Terrific article again by the Athletic. Really like their immediate feedback evaluation after each.
Flames appeared to really have done their homework on Kylington at the draft. They were able to see beyond the overconfident kid and examine how grounded he actually was as a person.
Kylington has definitely taken a step on the ice and appears to have matured as a person. Flames have 8 bonafide NHL regular Dmen on the roster. No need to add depth on D at trade deadline.
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02-21-2019, 08:17 PM
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#264
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Franchise Player
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really enjoyed the Kylington article.
Very excited about him and all the young defensemen...
Even though Gio is having a career year, at some point, calgary will need to find his successor... with the group Hanifin, Valimaki, Andersson and Kylington, I am feeling very good about the future of the defense.
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02-21-2019, 09:50 PM
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#265
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary
really enjoyed the Kylington article.
Very excited about him and all the young defensemen...
Even though Gio is having a career year, at some point, calgary will need to find his successor... with the group Hanifin, Valimaki, Andersson and Kylington, I am feeling very good about the future of the defense.
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Talent wise, I think Gio's spot is taken by Hanifin or Valimaki. Leadership wise it might be Hamonic.
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02-28-2019, 08:37 AM
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#266
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Not Beltline
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The athletic did a poll of 198 anonymous players in the league on best/worst city to play in, most overrated/underrated player, etc...
It's interesting to see what players think when they don't have to worry about being diplomatic.
The only Flames content is Giordano at 5th on the most underrated player list.
https://theathletic.com/840226/2019/...t-in-the-game/
Last edited by BeltlineFan; 02-28-2019 at 08:49 AM.
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02-28-2019, 08:56 AM
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#267
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by BeltlineFan
The athletic did a poll of 198 anonymous players in the league on best/worst city to play in, most overrated/underrated player, etc...
It's interesting to see what players think when they don't have to worry about being diplomatic.
The only Flames content is Giordano at 5th on the most underrated player list.
https://theathletic.com/840226/2019/...t-in-the-game/
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Good to know most players still view Crosby as better than McDavid.
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02-28-2019, 09:07 AM
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#268
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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I was really hoping to see McDavid on the overrated list.
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02-28-2019, 11:33 AM
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#269
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First Line Centre
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How is the most underrated player (Barkov) also voted the 4th best overall player?
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02-28-2019, 11:42 AM
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#270
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by nobles_point
How is the most underrated player (Barkov) also voted the 4th best overall player?
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Under rated by medua/fans?
How high would Barkov rate on a media or fan poll?
Top 25, maybe? doubt it.
Anyway, certainly not 4th, like his peers voted him.
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02-28-2019, 11:55 AM
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#271
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Intersesting that Torts is tied for 3rd when it comes to coaches players would like to play for and tops for coach players wouldn't like to play for. Babcock certainly not getting love from players considering how good a coach he's supposed to be.
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02-28-2019, 12:16 PM
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#272
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Intersesting that Torts is tied for 3rd when it comes to coaches players would like to play for and tops for coach players wouldn't like to play for. Babcock certainly not getting love from players considering how good a coach he's supposed to be.
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This doesn't surprise me. I do know several former NHL players personally and all of them cringe whenever I call Babcock the best active coach in NHL. They say that playing for Babcock was always very difficult (lots of mind games). I think there has to be some truth to it. Most players come from rural background, small town upbringing, farming communities. These kids seek simple direction and unambiguous motivation.
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02-28-2019, 12:18 PM
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#273
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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"Like to play for" and "good coach" overlap but are not the same. Torts is players coach for sure. I don't think he's on the level of Babcock, Q, or some others when it comes to all around coaching though.
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02-28-2019, 01:01 PM
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#274
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Draft Pick
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Victoria/Calgary
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
This doesn't surprise me. I do know several former NHL players personally and all of them cringe whenever I call Babcock the best active coach in NHL. They say that playing for Babcock was always very difficult (lots of mind games). I think there has to be some truth to it. Most players come from rural background, small town upbringing, farming communities. These kids seek simple direction and unambiguous motivation.
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I get what your saying but Babcock is the definition of a farm boy. Grew up in rural Saskatchewan.
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02-28-2019, 01:16 PM
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#275
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Franchise Player
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TSN summary
https://www.tsn.ca/player-poll-subba...ated-1.1265431
Subban most overrated, followed by Laine, Ekblad, Phaneuf and Erik Karlsson
Funny that Phaneuf is still considered overrated. His “rating” must be very low, but players still consider very low to be too high
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02-28-2019, 01:19 PM
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#276
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
TSN summary
https://www.tsn.ca/player-poll-subba...ated-1.1265431
Subban most overrated, followed by Laine, Ekblad, Phaneuf and Erik Karlsson
Funny that Phaneuf is still considered overrated. His “rating” must be very low, but players still consider very low to be too high
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Yeah, don't how a 6th Dman can be overrated.
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02-28-2019, 01:19 PM
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#277
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
TSN summary
https://www.tsn.ca/player-poll-subba...ated-1.1265431
Subban most overrated, followed by Laine, Ekblad, Phaneuf and Erik Karlsson
Funny that Phaneuf is still considered overrated. His “rating” must be very low, but players still consider very low to be too high
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I agree on Subban. He's good, but not as good as his contract, nor the hype (died down since his trade though).
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02-28-2019, 01:27 PM
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#278
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Robbob
Yeah, don't how a 6th Dman can be overrated.
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I feel it's probably a sign that he's not well liked across the league.
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02-28-2019, 01:27 PM
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#279
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Athletic annual subscrption is on sale today - 50% off. $3/month.
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"An idea is always a generalization, and generalization is a property of thinking. To generalize means to think." Georg Hegel
“To generalize is to be an idiot.” William Blake
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02-28-2019, 03:48 PM
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#280
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
TSN summary
https://www.tsn.ca/player-poll-subba...ated-1.1265431
Subban most overrated, followed by Laine, Ekblad, Phaneuf and Erik Karlsson
Funny that Phaneuf is still considered overrated. His “rating” must be very low, but players still consider very low to be too high
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I agree with all of those (though I didn't know anyone still rated Phaneuf)
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