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View Poll Results: Pick the best player from the following list
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Joel Otto
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Mikael Backlund
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Joe Nieuwendyk
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82.44% |
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Mat Stajan
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Sean Monahan
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1.53% |
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Craig Conroy
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Robert Reichel
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Cory Stillman
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Daymond Langkow
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Carey Wilson
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German Titov
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Kent Nilsson
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3.44% |
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Stephane Yelle
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Doug Gilmour
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12.21% |
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Doug Risebrough
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Olli Jokinen
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Dan Quienn
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Marc Savard
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Guy Chouinard
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06-17-2020, 11:51 AM
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#21
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Franchise Player
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Nieuwendyk got us Iginla. Gilmour got us Leeman.
Nieuwendyk > Gilmour
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06-17-2020, 11:56 AM
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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I think the team has had good centers....the problem is that it's been nearly 30 years since it last had a true top line impact guy. Monahan is the closest thing but he is a good finisher and better at passing than he gets credit for. But he is a second tier guy at best.
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06-17-2020, 12:36 PM
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#23
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by Bingo
I went Gilmour ... best center the Flames have ever had.
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Boy....i disagree completely with that and I am a huge Gilmour fan.
Joe Who was the most complete C this club has ever employed, though its close, but he did it for so much longer in Calgary than killer did.
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06-17-2020, 02:20 PM
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While Joe's line was #1, Gilmour was more complete. Facing top lines, and scoring like a #1. Further exemplified, was that Joe wasn't the best center on his other 2 Cup winning teams.
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06-17-2020, 02:26 PM
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Originally Posted by Hanna Sniper
Never fails to amaze me how under rated Kent Nilsson truly was
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Well, he got my vote. Got to see him live and marveled what he could do with the puck. On pure talent alone he was by far our best.
Nilsson
Gilmour
Niewendyk
Chiounard
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06-17-2020, 02:29 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Which Savard is on this draft board? The guy that had not reached his potential with the flames or the guy who flourished in Boston?
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06-17-2020, 02:30 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by cam_wmh
While Joe's line was #1, Gilmour was more complete. Facing top lines, and scoring like a #1. Further exemplified, was that Joe wasn't the best center on his other 2 Cup winning teams.
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I don't disagree with you- in 89 Gilmour was I think clearly the better player on the better (more important) line
but regarding the other 2 points, to Nieuwendyk's credit at least he won those 2 other cups. in Dallas (a bit like Calgary) he was in a 1a/1b situation with the younger also HOFer Modano and he did win the Smythe trophy...by the time he was in Jersey he was what? 35 years old?
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06-17-2020, 02:31 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuss275
Which Savard is on this draft board? The guy that had not reached his potential with the flames or the guy who flourished in Boston?
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100% the former
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06-17-2020, 02:33 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hanna Sniper
Never fails to amaze me how under rated Kent Nilsson truly was
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He’s going to be my 4th line center. Him playing with Tanguay and Loob will go down as the greatest 4th line ever!!!
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06-17-2020, 03:20 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: https://homestars.com/companies/2808346-keith-my-furnace-guy
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Joe was a force . In the playoffs he was a sure bet.
Not just in Calgary either.
Watching him Robert's and Loob was awesome.
That line with Suter and Chopper on the points was deadly. I fondly remember that line. I remember watching them dominate so many times and watching Loob change to a north American style and not take any crap because his linemates wouldn't stand for it.
Neiwy was quoted as saying you'd have to cut my legs off before ill stop standing in front of the net.
Top center and Killer being on the same team.....lights out.
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06-17-2020, 04:00 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Originally Posted by looooob
100% the former
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Exactly. Same reason why Jagr isn’t going to be voted our number one RW
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06-17-2020, 04:49 PM
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#32
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Went with Joe for length of stay, Gilmour will surely be 2nd.
I'd like to see Otto on the 4th line, scoring isn't everything. He shut down the other teams top guys and didn't back down from anybody while still putting up respectable numbers. Someone has to make defensive zone starts and kill penalties.
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06-17-2020, 05:14 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hanna Sniper
Never fails to amaze me how under rated Kent Nilsson truly was
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Or overrated. The problem with Kent Nilsson was that he was truly talented. However, he never panned out for the Flames or the North Stars until he went to the Oilers playing with superstars. He never really showed up for the Flames when it counted. Maybe being dubbed as the Magic Man, he made himself disappear and appear as necessary.
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06-17-2020, 05:58 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Winebar Kensington
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
The only reason I didn't vote for Gilmour is out of fear that he would quit on his team mid-season.
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Joe held out on the team too.
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06-17-2020, 06:14 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by troutman
Joe held out on the team too.
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In the middle of a season?
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06-17-2020, 06:19 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by CSharp
Or overrated. The problem with Kent Nilsson was that he was truly talented. However, he never panned out for the Flames or the North Stars until he went to the Oilers playing with superstars. He never really showed up for the Flames when it counted. Maybe being dubbed as the Magic Man, he made himself disappear and appear as necessary.
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Essentially 3 100 pt seasons. Would easily have had a 4th but for a gruesome broken ankle.
29 playoff games 28 pts.
He was the most offensively blessed player in the history of the team.
Yes he was inconsistent at times with his defensive play, but he most certainly panned out just fine in his Calgary days.
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06-17-2020, 06:41 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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When you consider this team was looking for a number one centre for almost 20 years after he left, it has to be Nieuwendyk.
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06-17-2020, 07:45 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Nieuwendyk
Gilmour
Nilsson
Monahan
HM's Otto, Langkow, Conroy
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06-17-2020, 09:09 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Are we looking at this as the four best, like if we were building an all-star team? Or the four best in terms of role?
I like Monahan, but if we are protecting a lead late in the game and want to put a center out there to try and pin the players in their zone, block shots, and wear down the opponent, I would prefer to have Otto, Conroy, or even Yelle on the ice.
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06-17-2020, 09:17 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Originally Posted by Bingo
So some details ...
1. Calgary players only
2. I'll look at games played, production and PPG to list options.
3. My cut off won't effect options as I'll go deeper than required
4. I'll label them by rank (3rd line LW) but don't select the player that matches that role the best, pick the best player.
Day to Day
We elect a position, say 2nd line RW, remove that name and do the 3rd line RW the next day.
I'll post a summary as we go along.
Calgary Flames All Time Roster
Gary Roberts - C1 - RW1
Johnny Gaudreau - C2 - RW2
Matthew Tkachuk - C3 - RW3
Alex Tanguay - C4 - RW4
D1 - D2
D3 - D4
D5 - D6
Miikka Kiprusoff
Mike Vernon
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Are we looking at this as the four best, like if we were building an all-star team? Or the four best in terms of role?
I like Monahan, but if we are protecting a lead late in the game and want to put a center out there to try and pin the players in their zone, block shots, and wear down the opponent, I would prefer to have Otto, Conroy, or even Yelle on the ice.
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I would've had a different player in the 4C spot than Monahan if we were picking who would be the best fit in the position, but we are choosing by the best player. So, that's why my vote with the 4C, assuming Monahan is still there, will be Monahan.
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