08-14-2018, 05:44 PM
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First Line Centre
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So Sekera goes on LTIR. Oilers currently have 4.9mil in cap space according to CapFriendly.
This means that they still can't sign Nurse for 5mil+, let alone Nurse and another defenceman to fill in for Sekera for a total of 5mil, until the season has already started. Is this correct? Because they have to wait for the season to start before putting players on the LTIR?
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08-14-2018, 06:20 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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Well there goes another Oilers season down the drain.
Looking at CapFriendly, with Sekera out and Nurse unsigned, currently the Oilers have Matthew Benning and Kevin Gravel (who?) as their 4th and 5th dmen. LOL!
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08-14-2018, 06:26 PM
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#43
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern
So Sekera goes on LTIR. Oilers currently have 4.9mil in cap space according to CapFriendly.
This means that they still can't sign Nurse for 5mil+, let alone Nurse and another defenceman to fill in for Sekera for a total of 5mil, until the season has already started. Is this correct? Because they have to wait for the season to start before putting players on the LTIR?
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I'd also like to know, what happens if Sekera is cleared to return in say, January.
If they used LTIR space to fill the hole, what happens?
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08-14-2018, 06:31 PM
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#44
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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They need to plug this hole. They should trade The Tenderness for a poor-man's Larsson.
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08-14-2018, 06:50 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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He wasn’t the same player last season when he came back from the other injury. This is a really bad break for him as his career trajectory is taking a big nosedive.
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08-14-2018, 07:08 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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He slipped on one of the many banners sitting around ready to be raised on opening night.
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08-14-2018, 07:19 PM
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#47
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Lifetime Suspension
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Sucks for sekera, tough injury that could affect his ability to keep a job going forward. Silver lining being that at least for the duration of the injury he doesn’t have to be playing with the oilers.
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08-14-2018, 07:44 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Every other tea. In the league just breathed a big sigh of relief...with him in the lineup the Oilers would be cup favorites. I wonder if McJesus can play D
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08-14-2018, 08:24 PM
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#49
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern
It mostly depends on severity of tear and chronicity of injury
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True. But sports like hockey and skiing, where you have a solid boot on, versus a soccer or football cleat, tends to lead to a speedier return to sport.
Erik Karlsson was out 2.5 months (lacerated not ruptured), Travis Zajac was out 3 months, Sami Salo was out 4 months, Andrej Mesaros was out 5 months. A skier like Aksel Lund Svindal was out 4 months.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sekera is able to return by Christmas. But by then it will likely be too late for the Oilers.
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08-14-2018, 09:04 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
Every other tea. In the league just breathed a big sigh of relief...with him in the lineup the Oilers would be cup favorites
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You forgot to use green text
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08-14-2018, 09:08 PM
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#51
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Originally Posted by mac_82
But by then it will likely be too late for the Oilers.
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It's August; it's already too late for the Oilers.
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08-14-2018, 09:33 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Groot
You forgot to use green text
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Its implied. We're talking about the Oilers, they're already a punchline
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08-14-2018, 10:21 PM
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#53
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08-14-2018, 11:48 PM
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#54
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FireGilbert
Well there goes another Oilers season down the drain.
Looking at CapFriendly, with Sekera out and Nurse unsigned, currently the Oilers have Matthew Benning and Kevin Gravel (who?) as their 4th and 5th dmen. LOL!
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The Oilers literally have to resort to filling out their roster with gravel.
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08-14-2018, 11:50 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Alpheus
It's August; it's already too late for the Oilers.
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According to my calendar, it's not too late for the Oilers until the second scrimmage of training camp. Right now, it's too late for the Eskimos.
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08-14-2018, 11:51 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
The Oilers literally have to resort to filling out their roster with gravel.
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Even worse, they might have to give a spot to Keegan Lowe.
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08-14-2018, 11:58 PM
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#57
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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08-15-2018, 02:54 AM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern
So Sekera goes on LTIR. Oilers currently have 4.9mil in cap space according to CapFriendly.
This means that they still can't sign Nurse for 5mil+, let alone Nurse and another defenceman to fill in for Sekera for a total of 5mil, until the season has already started. Is this correct? Because they have to wait for the season to start before putting players on the LTIR?
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No, contrarty to popular belief, you are able to use LTIR during the off-season as evident by Horton and Lupul last year which caused a lot of confusion.
https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2...n-connor-brown
There is different calculations and reasoning for using LTIR during the off-season and day 1 of the season.
But still, depending on the actual makeup of the final team, they could reassign players to the AHL prior to the season starting. Most notably Puljujarvi and Koskinen are waivered exempt. Although Koskinen's 2.5M cap-hit would not be completely buried.
That would give the team roughly 7M to re-sign Nurse and sign a replacement for Sekera. When the season starts, Sekera is placed on injury reserve and Koskinen and Puljujarvi would be recalled using the LTIR relief.
The bigger issue with this is that unlike the Hortons, Prongers and Hossas of the NHL, Sekera is expected to come back mid-season. Once he does, and the 5.5M cap relief is immediately removed, the team would be required to become cap-compliant. If Nurse is making more than 4.9M (assuming the other replacement player cap-hit is able to be completely buried) then they are in trouble with their current make up of the team. Not that Sekera's injury really changed much, the team still needed to sign Nurse (and a 14th forward) for under 4.9M or make roster moves.
Last edited by Oling_Roachinen; 08-15-2018 at 02:59 AM.
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08-15-2018, 03:29 AM
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#59
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern
It mostly depends on severity of tear and chronicity of injury
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Yeah from what I remember Williams was a slight tear he got while running, initially they didn't even think it required surgery, odds are Sekera will be out till christmas, return for half the season and suck just like last year.
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08-15-2018, 08:27 AM
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#60
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Jason Scheff - Oh sorry, he was brought in to replace Peter Cetera, I always get those two mixed up.
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This is gold. Well done.
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