08-15-2018, 09:57 PM
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#461
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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For those who are wondering why utilities have a hard time coming into reserves, I can 100% truthfully say that a reserve near calgary has had a few residents show up with rifles and ready to shoot while I and other people were simply trying to maintain Alberta's high voltage equipment. The resolution was for this company to pay this band for "security" in case a similar incident happened.
Examples like this also lead to not getting adequate utilities and this one specific incident falls directly at those individuals feet.
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08-16-2018, 08:18 AM
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#462
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Lifetime Suspension
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I spent a summer working in and around the Morley reserve, water treatment plants for the reserve needed to be protected with barb wire and strong fencing, and all the government building first floor windows had to be bullet proof or they would be smashed.
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08-16-2018, 08:40 AM
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#463
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Norm!
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Does anyone think that giving a day on the calender means anything.
I mean frankly on Labor Day I'm not thinking about labor movement, and unions and stuff.
On Christmas, when I was a kid I'd go to church, but nowdays I don't think about the birth of Christ and tearfully raise a toast to the son of god.
On good Friday I don't gather the kids around and tell them stories about the Roman's nailing Christ to a couple of two by fours.
So while I would be grateful for another paid day off, I'm not going to be doing anything but yelling "If you kids back there don't quit messing around, we're turning this car around and going back to Regina"
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08-16-2018, 08:45 AM
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#464
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Vancouver
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You go to a remembrance day ceremony don't you? Maybe on this day we can go to an indigenous ceremony and learn a bit more.
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08-16-2018, 09:27 AM
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#465
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Originally Posted by worth
You go to a remembrance day ceremony don't you? Maybe on this day we can go to an indigenous ceremony and learn a bit more.
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I would imagine - like remembrance day - a very small % of people will go to a ceremony unless forced (school for example).
I would never say no to another stat holiday though.
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08-16-2018, 09:30 AM
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#466
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by worth
You go to a remembrance day ceremony don't you? Maybe on this day we can go to an indigenous ceremony and learn a bit more.
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I dont think they're going to fall for that again...
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08-16-2018, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Weitz
I would imagine - like remembrance day - a very small % of people will go to a ceremony unless forced (school for example).
I would never say no to another stat holiday though.
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I think the point is that holidays are what you make of them. If they’re just a day off to you, they’re just a day off regardless of why. But you do at least have an option to actually go and use the day as purposed. Not everyone celebrates Christmas, or Easter, or cares about Remembrance Day, or spends time with Family on family day, etc etc, but these days are available to many to do just that.
For many, the day off will be nice. For others, it’ll be a great chance to actually go remember, pay respects, and hopefully celebrate Indigenous culture. It’s just good to have a day off where you can actually do that, if you want.
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08-16-2018, 10:38 AM
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#468
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by worth
You go to a remembrance day ceremony don't you? Maybe on this day we can go to an indigenous ceremony and learn a bit more.
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Sure I go to remembrance day, it has personal meaning to me, but I don't go around forcing other people to go for example.
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08-16-2018, 10:41 AM
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#469
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Originally Posted by Weitz
I would never say no to another stat holiday though.
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You might feel differently if you ran a business already struggling with rising minimum wages and skinny margins.
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08-16-2018, 11:22 AM
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#470
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
You might feel differently if you ran a business already struggling with rising minimum wages and skinny margins.
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I suppose that depends on the business. But I would expect people would just use your business/service on another day, with no net loss of revenue. I mean, it wasn't that long ago that all stores were closed every Sunday.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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08-16-2018, 11:30 AM
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#471
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
I suppose that depends on the business. But I would expect people would just use your business/service on another day, with no net loss of revenue. I mean, it wasn't that long ago that all stores were closed every Sunday.
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I think it is more to do with having to pay staff extra holiday pay if they're open.
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08-16-2018, 11:33 AM
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#472
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Does anyone think that giving a day on the calender means anything.
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Sure I go to remembrance day, it has personal meaning to me, but I don't go around forcing other people to go for example.
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This new holiday will have meaning for others even if it doesn’t mean much to you. The same as Remembrance Day has meaning for some but not all, even though I personally believe that Remembrance Day should be a federal stat because IMO what is being remembered means something to everyone even if some believe the holiday itself does not.
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08-16-2018, 11:34 AM
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#473
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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give me an indigenous parade, festival or some food and I'll go 
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08-16-2018, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
I suppose that depends on the business. But I would expect people would just use your business/service on another day, with no net loss of revenue. I mean, it wasn't that long ago that all stores were closed every Sunday.
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Yeah, not all businesses. I have a business that’s unaffected by minimum wages. I wasn’t thinking about losing a sales day but having to pay staff for one more day off when a business may already be struggling as many are (service industry, for example). I also think this a knee-jerk reaction.
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08-16-2018, 11:51 AM
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Norm!
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This new holiday will have meaning for others even if it doesn’t mean much to you. The same as Remembrance Day has meaning for some but not all, even though I personally believe that Remembrance Day should be a federal stat because IMO what is being remembered means something to everyone even if some believe the holiday itself does not.
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A holiday on its own is meaningless, people are going to treat it as a holiday, to me it does nothing to educate or to reconcile, its just a meaningless day where people think of it as a day off, not rememberance day, or easter or whatever, its "Yah a long weekend"
The thing with rememberance day is its almost become meaningless to a majority of Canadians because we're really stopped teaching about things like WW1 and WW2 and Korea and Canada's role in it for example. Also because that older generation that could be the reason for it, who the stories are talking about are dying out.
Its going to be the same thing with Reconcilliation day.
How about instead they just declare that a school day needs to be dedicated to Remembrance Day or Reconciliation day and all discussions that day in school is all about education on that subject. It seems more meaningful to me, then just a day off.
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08-16-2018, 12:43 PM
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I also think this a knee-jerk reaction.
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In what way?
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08-16-2018, 02:40 PM
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#477
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I vaguely remember somone proposing that since the Treaties were all in effect peace treaties between us and other native nations, we could simply re-declare war and take over their lands.
A little extreme but you certainly don't have to apologize once you've finally conquered all their lands.
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08-16-2018, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
A holiday on its own is meaningless, people are going to treat it as a holiday, to me it does nothing to educate or to reconcile, its just a meaningless day where people think of it as a day off, not rememberance day, or easter or whatever, its "Yah a long weekend"
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This is just one part of the TRCs Calls to Action, K-12 education is also included in it.
For reference:
http://www.trc.ca/websites/trcinstit...n_English2.pdf
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08-16-2018, 03:10 PM
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#479
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
I also think this a knee-jerk reaction.
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How do you mean? This was a recommendation made in 2015 by a committee formed in 2008, seems like it's been in the works for a while.
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08-16-2018, 03:25 PM
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#480
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Ducay
I vaguely remember somone proposing that since the Treaties were all in effect peace treaties between us and other native nations, we could simply re-declare war and take over their lands.
A little extreme but you certainly don't have to apologize once you've finally conquered all their lands.
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What's the point of a comment like this, except to hurt?
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