09-01-2018, 07:56 AM
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#2701
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
In hindsight, maybe. That does not, in any way, justify the obsession with trading for him.
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I'm sure us Flames fans would love some redemption from past dealing with the Leafs too, two of the worst trades in Calgary's history... Gilmour & Phaneuf deals.
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09-01-2018, 12:22 PM
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#2702
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Would you guys like to see a PTO/1 year deal for Rick Nash? Let the Mangiapane’s and Foo’s over ripen one more year and stack up on offense??
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Neal
Nash - Ryan - Frolik
Bennett - Jankowski - Czarnik
Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Kulak - Stone/Andersson
PP1
Nash - Monahan - Gaudreau
Giordano - Neal
PP2
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lindholm
Hanifin - Brodie
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09-01-2018, 12:23 PM
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#2703
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Nash is done. He hasnt officially retired but he's retired.
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09-01-2018, 12:28 PM
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#2704
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Personally, I'd rather go with what we have. Let the few kids compete for an actual spot or 2 and inject some youth, desperation, and speed into those spots.
But I'd still sign Nick Shore if possible. Good C depth to have and still only 25.
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09-01-2018, 12:32 PM
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#2705
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First Line Centre
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I wonder if Linden Vey returns from the K for a try-out this season?
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09-01-2018, 12:33 PM
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#2706
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Struch
Perhaps righting a past wrong from the 2014 Entry Draft?
The Flames would be in a lot better shape had they made the obvious choice of taking Michael "the Swedish Gretzky" Nylander's son instead of Sam Bennett.
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Come on now...EVERYBODY had Sam listed in the top four
central scouting had him #1...not one team picks Nylander above Sam
Hindsight
http://www.mynhldraft.com/2014-nhl-d...pect-rankings/
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09-01-2018, 12:36 PM
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#2707
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Struch
Perhaps righting a past wrong from the 2014 Entry Draft?
The Flames would be in a lot better shape had they made the obvious choice of taking Michael "the Swedish Gretzky" Nylander's son instead of Sam Bennett.
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Selecting William Nylander #4 in the 2014 NHL entry draft was NEVER an obvious choice. Hell, it was never even a conventional choice. Bennett may never turn into the player the Flames hoped they were getting, but at the time there was no reason to expect that he would not be an excellent NHL player. It was the right pick at the time.
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09-01-2018, 12:46 PM
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#2708
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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I like the roster for the most part.. still not completely comfortable with the goaltending though.
To Ottawa:
Michael Stone
Jon Gillies or David Rittich
To Calgary:
Craig Anderson ($1 million retained)
The Senators may need Stone for both their team and to entice Mark Stone to re-sign. This deal makes the Flames a lot older in the goaltending department but two goalies who have been starters in the league for a long time. (Also, doesn't Anderson usually have terrific stats every second year?)
Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Jankowski-Neal
Bennett-Backlund-Foo
Czarnik-Ryan-Frolik
Lazar
Giordano-Brodie
Hanifin-Hamonic
Kulak-Andersson
Prout
Smith (41 GP)
Anderson (41 GP)
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09-01-2018, 12:49 PM
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#2709
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First Line Centre
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By saying obvious, I meant going with the feel good story that people love to see, the son of a former Flame being drafted by his hometown team. William Nylander would've been the choice the Flames made with their heart but instead Calgary went with their head. (taking the higher rated Sam Bennett)
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09-01-2018, 12:49 PM
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#2710
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Most PTOs never get signed, but it doesn't hurt to have the extra competition. With at least 2 goalies going to China, I could see a goalie PTO quite easily. Not much out there, but Lehtonen and Lindback might be the best of a bad bunch (assuming they haven't signed in Europe yet).
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09-01-2018, 12:52 PM
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#2711
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
Would you guys like to see a PTO/1 year deal for Rick Nash? Let the Mangiapane’s and Foo’s over ripen one more year and stack up on offense??
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Neal
Nash - Ryan - Frolik
Bennett - Jankowski - Czarnik
Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Kulak - Stone/Andersson
PP1
Nash - Monahan - Gaudreau
Giordano - Neal
PP2
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lindholm
Hanifin - Brodie
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If Rick Nash comes back (and that is a big IF) he is likely going to do it mid season probably just before the trade deadline and sign with a contender.
That way he avoids most of the strenuous NHL regular season and gets a chance to win the cup.
He withdrew his name from July 1st free agent frenzy for a reason. He is not sure if his body is up for it.
Last edited by sureLoss; 09-01-2018 at 12:56 PM.
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09-01-2018, 12:59 PM
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#2712
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Struch
By saying obvious, I meant going with the feel good story that people love to see, the son of a former Flame being drafted by his hometown team. William Nylander would've been the choice the Flames made with their heart but instead Calgary went with their head. (taking the higher rated Sam Bennett)
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I don't think Flames management gave a #### about a guy who was mediocre in Calgary years before any of them were with the organization
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09-01-2018, 01:09 PM
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#2713
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Struch
By saying obvious, I meant going with the feel good story that people love to see, the son of a former Flame being drafted by his hometown team. William Nylander would've been the choice the Flames made with their heart but instead Calgary went with their head. (taking the higher rated Sam Bennett)
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I am virtually certain that at the time of the 2014 Draft NOBODY in Calgary would have loved seeing the Flames draft William Nylander while the top-rated consensus pick was still on the board.
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09-01-2018, 01:19 PM
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#2714
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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The biggest question left is goaltending.
Mike Smith is one of the oldest goalies in the league, plus he's very injury-prone.
Rittich and Gillies are promising, but they only averaged 90.2% last year. There's a lot of risk there.
It might be a good idea to save that remaining cap space for a potential goaltending backup or 1B. Just in case Smith gets injured. I wouldn't want to lose the entire season to something so manageable.
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09-01-2018, 01:27 PM
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#2715
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I don’t think we have to sign anyone else. There will be competition for that 4th LW/RW spot. Don’t think Rick Nash is the answer.
As for goaltending, my guess is that we sign Smith to a cheap 1/2 year deal to be 1B if one of Rittich/Gillies are capable of playing lots of games. If not, we might have yet another goalie makeover. More stopgaps and what not until Parsons is ready in like 2-4 years.
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09-01-2018, 01:38 PM
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#2716
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First Line Centre
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Another aspect about adding Nylander is his salary would fit right in line with Calgary's internal cap hit limit, otherwise known as the Giordano Factor.
I'd be awesome if Brad Treliving could trade Oliver Kylington or Rasmus Andersson plus a couple 1st's to the Leafs for William Nylander.
One of Frolik or Stone could also be dealt to clear the needed cap space.
7 x $6.75 for the RFA Nylander
Sign me up!
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09-01-2018, 01:42 PM
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#2717
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What the eff.. you want to add a couple firsts in there. No thanks.
Nylander is overrated because he is a Maple Leaf. 60 pt player
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09-01-2018, 02:08 PM
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#2718
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First Line Centre
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This would be the youngest and deepest forward group the Flames have seen since forever.
Gaudreau - Monahan - Neal
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Nylander
Jankowski - Backlund - Ryan
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09-01-2018, 02:16 PM
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#2719
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Struch
This would be the youngest and deepest forward group the Flames have seen since forever.
Gaudreau - Monahan - Neal
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Nylander
Jankowski - Backlund - Ryan
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That may be true, but the cost is prohibitive. At the expense of one of the team's top defense prospects and a couple top draft picks is not something that this team can afford. Certainly not for a player at Nylander's level.
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09-01-2018, 02:24 PM
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#2720
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Franchise Player
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Holy tunnel vision
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