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Old 10-28-2018, 05:58 PM   #4061
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He mentions a connection between the Flyers and Mike Smith. Doesn’t make sense unless the Flames acquire a goalie elsewhere. Wouldn’t want Elliott back or Neuvirth either.

I don’t really see the Flames looking to make a trade for any position other than goaltending.
Not only do the Flyers have 20 year old Carter Hart waiting in the wings, but they also have 25 year old Alex Lyon who had 11 starts last year.

He had an incredible 94 saves in a game last season.

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I wonder, could this be the Flames target?
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Old 10-28-2018, 06:01 PM   #4062
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3-way deal:

Calgary aquires: Schneider
Philadelphia aquires: Smith
NJ acquires: Philly goalie ++

Philly will still have to sort out their 3-headed monster but maybe they just waive Pickard if they add a new guy to the mix..

Could be risky for the Flames as we don't know how Schneider will do after hip surgery but it's just an idea that could work out handsomely if he returns to play the way he did before he hurt his hip a couple seasons ago.
Hard no.

Schneider had hip surgery in the off season.
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Old 10-28-2018, 06:53 PM   #4063
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Hard no.

Schneider had hip surgery in the off season.
Schneider seems to have some pretty big red flags that I’d steer well clear of. Two bad seasons due to hip problems, hip surgery, and real bad numbers in his AHL conditioning stint so far.

That’s a little too risky.
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I wasn't against the Smith signing because we all knew the risk of him aging. This year it's showing though and you have to think within the next 10 games if he (along with the team), don't play better defensively he'll be moved with salary eaten. A trading partner for taking him on would have to be a non-playoff team, and it'd likely be a mediocre swap, to give everyone a reset without either team taking on salary. So I could very well see a guy like Anderson in Ottawa being acquired, or one of the Arizona goaltenders as a desperation move, or at best Lundqvist at the deadline. All in all I don't think there are many trading partners out there.
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Old 10-28-2018, 08:37 PM   #4066
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I wasn't against the Smith signing because we all knew the risk of him aging. This year it's showing though and you have to think within the next 10 games if he (along with the team), don't play better defensively he'll be moved with salary eaten. A trading partner for taking him on would have to be a non-playoff team, and it'd likely be a mediocre swap, to give everyone a reset without either team taking on salary. So I could very well see a guy like Anderson in Ottawa being acquired, or one of the Arizona goaltenders as a desperation move, or at best Lundqvist at the deadline. All in all I don't think there are many trading partners out there.
Risk? Hell I guaranteed it.
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Risk? Hell I guaranteed it.
Yeah, it seemed pretty likely that he was going to decline. He was never an elite goalie to begin with. Every team that he has been on was always hunting for someone better. He was good, but not a goalie any team wanted to hinge their whole season on.
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Old 10-29-2018, 05:22 AM   #4068
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Not only do the Flyers have 20 year old Carter Hart waiting in the wings, but they also have 25 year old Alex Lyon who had 11 starts last year.

He had an incredible 94 saves in a game last season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F_tJFtMak4

I wonder, could this be the Flames target?
I highly doubt they would be looking to move Smith for someone this unproven.
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Old 10-29-2018, 05:36 AM   #4069
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Well its not like Smith is proven to be good, at least someone unproven hasn't shown that they're bad like Smith has.
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Old 10-29-2018, 06:27 AM   #4070
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Sigalet gets no more goalies.
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There's zero chance Edmonton trades Kassian to the Flames, regardless of who or what is involved.
maybe.
but with with his salary for what he brings, I'd love to put him on the next bus down to Calgary.
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Yeah, it seemed pretty likely that he was going to decline. He was never an elite goalie to begin with. Every team that he has been on was always hunting for someone better. He was good, but not a goalie any team wanted to hinge their whole season on.
Well I really just meant that I guaranteed he would age.
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I'd take Hart or Lyon in a second, the cost of the latter likely significantly lower.

We've got nothing to lose at this point, our goal tending from the ECHL -> AHL -> NHL has proven to be terrible.

However I'm also part of the camp that wants Sigalet fired into the sun, I cant imagine how he's survived the last 4 regime purges because he's done nothing with our goalies.
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I'd love for one of the columnists at The Athletic to interview Sigalet and get his take on the goalies. He could also shed some light on his process when working with these guys. Can you do much with a veteran player like Mike Smith? Is he open to being coached after all these years? What's his vision for Rittich? Is Gillies moving in the right direction? Parsons?
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Schneider seems to have some pretty big red flags that I’d steer well clear of. Two bad seasons due to hip problems, hip surgery, and real bad numbers in his AHL conditioning stint so far.

That’s a little too risky.
His last AHL game was good, though, apparently. I'd need to see i=him in some NHL games.
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Old 10-29-2018, 09:23 AM   #4076
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Siga-letdown.
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Old 10-29-2018, 09:39 AM   #4077
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Siga-letdown.
How so? It's been a carousel of crap for him to work with
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Old 10-29-2018, 09:46 AM   #4078
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How so? It's been a carousel of crap for him to work with

So a goalie coach can only be successful if he has a great goalie?
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How so? It's been a carousel of crap for him to work with

Chicken and egg??
Poor musician blaming his instrument?
Passing the buck?
"Not my fault"ism?


Elliott Before Sigalet - .930 SV% 2.07 GAA

After Sigalet - .910 SV% 2.55 GAA
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How so? It's been a carousel of crap for him to work with
Gillies and Parsons weren't considered to be crap going in. Elliott was considered to be a competent goalie (sure behind a good D but still).
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