Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Muta]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

If Nenshi loses that IMO is a sign we need a new centrist party

I've said it before and I'll say it again - if Greg Clark's Alberta Party was still around today, I'd be voting for them. He would have been an AWESOME premier.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Muta

I've said it before and I'll say it again - if Greg Clark's Alberta Party was still around today, I'd be voting for them. He would have been an AWESOME premier.

Yeah. I think the NDP name alone is an issue for a lot of people, and their historic far left positioning isn't a platform that is likely to resonate with enough Albertans to form government regularly.

If they stay in the centre and have someone charismatic like Nenshi they have a chance - but it'd be a bigger chance if they changed their colours to purple and called themselves the One Alberta party or something like that. If they elect a true-believer NDP type that's their choice, but it also means they're choosing not to be relevant to the majority of Albertans.

In that case we really would need a new centrist party - because we can't be stuck with the UCP forever - it's just getting worse and worse.

[Superflyer]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I can't remember the specifics of the rule but it is something along the lines of a by-election has to happen within 6 months to fill a seat unless that seat is open within a year of the next scheduled election in which case they don't have to call a by-election for that riding.

You are correct, I had to look it up

Order for election to fill vacancy

32(1) When a vacancy occurs in the membership of the Assembly, the Clerk shall

(a) issue and deliver the Clerk’s warrant to the Chief Electoral Officer for the issue of a writ for the election of a Member to fill the vacancy, and

(b) deliver a copy of the warrant to the Clerk of the Executive Council.

(2) Within 6 months after the delivery of the warrant to the Chief Electoral Officer, an order shall be made under section 39 of the Election Act authorizing the issue of a writ for an election to fill the vacancy.

(3) Notwithstanding subsection (2), an order need not be made under section 39 of the Election Act if the vacancy occurs during the last year of the legal life of the Assembly.

(4) If the Legislature is dissolved after the issue of the writ referred to in subsection (2) and before an election is held under the writ, the writ is revoked on the dissolution of the Legislature.

(5) A vacancy in the membership of the Assembly does not invalidate any proceedings of the Assembly.

So the earliest would likely be early next year as they would push it to the last available day once a seat is vacated

[Locke]

Our problem is, has been and will remain until we acknowledge them.

- Rural ridings have too much electoral power
- Alberta has a very young population
- Calgary has too many old people in it coming from lucky Oil booms and Generational wealth.

Its really easy to not GAF about Health Care and Education when you can afford to get it from wherever you want.

Smith's Libertarianism nonsense sounds great to people at the tail-end of their lives with enough wealth that it doesnt matter.

But thats not everyone.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Locke

Our problem is, has been and will remain until we acknowledge them.

- Rural ridings have too much electoral power
- Alberta has a very young population
- Calgary has too many old people in it coming from lucky Oil booms and Generational wealth.

Its really easy to not GAF about Health Care and Education when you can afford to get it from wherever you want.

Smith's Libertarianism nonsense sounds great to people at the tail-end of their lives with enough wealth that it doesnt matter.

But thats not everyone.

I don’t think rural ridings have too much electoral power or at least not an unfair amount, rather it’s the small to mid size cities that should align closer to Edmonton and Calgary who are still falling for Lucy holding the football.

The rural ridings aren’t going to move to more moderate views until they’re forced to.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Yeah. I think the NDP name alone is an issue for a lot of people, and their historic far left positioning isn't a platform that is likely to resonate with enough Albertans to form government regularly.

If they stay in the centre and have someone charismatic like Nenshi they have a chance - but it'd be a bigger chance if they changed their colours to purple and called themselves the One Alberta party or something like that. If they elect a true-believer NDP type that's their choice, but it also means they're choosing not to be relevant to the majority of Albertans.

In that case we really would need a new centrist party - because we can't be stuck with the UCP forever - it's just getting worse and worse.

It's sad that many people can't see past partisan colors or do research on party policy. Even if Greg Clark's Alberta Party isn't an option anymore, the ANDP is the clear go-to choice in their place as the credible centrist option. Of course, to many people they will always be socialist (or communist to the real nutters), despite that being blatantly inaccurate in 2024, and no matter what they the party does - even if they imploded and went extreme right-wing - they will still be.... orange and NDP; therefore bad.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by Superflyer

You are correct, I had to look it up



So the earliest would likely be early next year as they would push it to the last available day once a seat is vacated

Similar to municipal government

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Muta

It's sad that many people can't see past partisan colors or do research on party policy. Even if Greg Clark's Alberta Party isn't an option anymore, the ANDP is the clear go-to choice in their place as the credible centrist option. Of course, to many people they will always be socialist (or communist to the real nutters), despite that being blatantly inaccurate in 2024, and no matter what they the party does - even if they imploded and went extreme right-wing - they will still be.... orange and NDP; therefore bad.

I think it’s becoming less of and issue since most indications are that the number of people who refuse to vote for the NDP a decreasing and the number of people who refuse to vote for the UCP are increasing. Progress takes time unfortunately and I’m not convinced for a minute that they would have won the last election had they simply changed the name.

[KelVarnsen]

People keep voting for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party. Why would they stop now?

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

People keep voting for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party. Why would they stop now?

Because it's not my face they want to eat!

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Alpha_Q

x3 Nenshi votes from my household.

Two more from us today

[Bigtime]

Surprised to see this didn't pop up here last night when the news dropped. NDP MLA Shannon Phillips stepping down effective July 1st.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1799977843759206710

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Surprised to see this didn't pop up here last night when the news dropped. NDP MLA Shannon Phillips stepping down effective July 1st.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1799977843759206710

IIRC isn't she the one that was "followed" by the Lethbridge Police?

If so I don't blame her

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

IIRC isn't she the one that was "followed" by the Lethbridge Police?

If so I don't blame her

Yes that's her and her statement on why she's leaving makes a lot of sense.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Phillips is endorsing Kathleen Ganley, so it's more likely her decision is personal than as a favour to Nenshi, give the Crown recently decided not to proceed with prosecuting the Lethbridge police officers who tailed her.

Is it safe to be an opposition MLA in that city? That's a legitimate question.

[The Fisher Account]

Law enforcement failed Shannon. No politician should ever go through what she did.

Absolutely unacceptable.

[Fuzz]

Didn't the courts throw in the towel, too?

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Didn't the courts throw in the towel, too?

Yup. She's another politician that has some very thick skin and was just pushed too far.

[Ozy_Flame]

Sounds like Catherine McKenna all over again.

Canada is becoming a place where female politicians cannot safely or comfortably build careers for fear of their own security (and sanity).

Very, very troubling trend.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Just wait until there's a provincial police under the control of the Premier's Office.