Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Regorium

Well, I bought a condo in 2012 and only this year has it returned to 2012 value, so my personal experience is that everything, even today, is very affordable, and that evil landlords and real estate investors have taken a serious bath over the last decade, contrary to the popular opinion that real estate doesn't lose.

But my point is that there's been multiple opportunities for a 40 year old to get into the market if they made it their priority. If they chose not to make it a priority that's okay too! Owning isn't for everyone, but then I wouldn't be complaining that I can't afford a home.

My sympathy lies with those people that make it a priority (eg. anyone born after say 1995 with no parental support) but it has still become impossible for them to attain.

I understand what you're trying to say, but I just don't think it's as easy for most people out there as it was for you. Also, the 40-year-old dude is not a good example to focus on (in fact he's a poor example) - the article is moreso about affordability in general. I'm not sure why people are fixated on him so much, look past that.

Just out of complete curiosity, are you making over six figures (part of the apparently normal CP demographic) / gainfully employed / educated / have no health issues / have a non-turbulent personal life? These factors 100% play into many people's lives and their ability to pursue home ownership.

[TheIronMaiden]

I agree with you Muta, there are many folks who were born as poor as poor could be and they didn't have the advantage that others did.

All the same, there is a window of time between 1990 and 2019 where any idiot could make 6 figures if they wanted to sacrifice their time and effort. With very few exceptions. In other parts of the country maybe not, but in Alberta hard work really could change your families position in the world.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Muta

'It’s depressing being a 40-year-old stuck at home': Why the dream of homeownership is fading for many Calgarians

https://calgaryherald.com/business/d...alberta-fading

Bit of a sobering, depressing read. I feel for young people looking to enter into the home ownership world in this province; it's absolutely unreachable for many, which never used to be the case prior to even five years ago. The wealthy class / rental agencies buying up all the real estate in a market of limited supply has really done damage to this demographic - amplified when people who don't even live here are buying up the property. The growing wealth gap is causing greater, and unsustainable, problems.

Originally Posted by Muta

I understand what you're trying to say, but I just don't think it's as easy for most people out there as it was for you. Also, the 40-year-old dude is not a good example to focus on (in fact he's a poor example) - the article is moreso about affordability in general. I'm not sure why people are fixated on him so much, look past that.

Just out of complete curiosity, are you making over six figures (part of the apparently normal CP demographic) / gainfully employed / educated / have no health issues / have a non-turbulent personal life? These factors 100% play into many people's lives and their ability to pursue home ownership.

Ummm, let's not forget he's the example you posted lol.

[TheIronMaiden]

I would like to add nuance to my post and say that reducing barriers of entry should be a priority. and social welfare systems that help people become land owners, and reduce blatant profiteering and abuses from land lords is a good thing.

[Ozy_Flame]

The poster quoting Muta should have bolded the following sentence. But they won't.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Ummm, let's not forget he's the example you posted lol.

I could have sworn I posted an article about housing affordability. Why are you so weirdly / creepily fixated on the specific person used as an example in the article?

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Muta

Yeah the main person in the story is an odd choice. Doesn't change the underlying message of the article though.

Agreed the underlying message of the article about (the lack of) affordability is on point, but man, talk about missing the mark.

"40 year old that failed to launch and has a whole host of bad life choices has to move back home with parents" doesn't exactly do justice to the reality of the story and how hard it is for the average late 20s/early 30s right now. Would be a way more impactful story if they interviewed say, a 30 year old that was trying to start a family and had done everything right.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Sliver

JFC.

Yeah, wonder if maybe he could have saved a few bucks working instead of picking his ass in the slammer for 14 months.

Best thing there is that in 2010 he managed to "own" a Toyota Tundra - which could not possibly have been any older than a 2000 model. Easily a house down payment right there compared to the money he must have sunk into that.

[PepsiFree]

IDK I’m an immigrant who owns his own home and has multiple vehicles and I feel like anyone older than me who is complaining probably ####ed up.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

IDK I’m an immigrant who owns his own home and has multiple vehicles and I feel like anyone older than me who is complaining probably ####ed up.

Bro I feel ya

[you&me]

Originally Posted by Torture

Agreed the underlying message of the article about (the lack of) affordability is on point, but man, talk about missing the mark.

"40 year old that failed to launch and has a whole host of bad life choices has to move back home with parents" doesn't exactly do justice to the reality of the story and how hard it is for the average late 20s/early 30s right now. Would be a way more impactful story if they interviewed say, a 30 year old that was trying to start a family and had done everything right.

Exactly.

I have a feel Mr. DUI with the neck tats still might not own a house if housing was still at 2020 levels...

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Muta

'It’s depressing being a 40-year-old stuck at home': Why the dream of homeownership is fading for many Calgarians

Originally Posted by Muta

I could have sworn I posted an article about housing affordability. Why are you so weirdly / creepily fixated on the specific person used as an example in the article?

You literally bolded the part where it talks about how a 40-year-old is experiencing the fading dream of home ownership.

I'm creepily fixated on your exact literal explicit words and citations?
A. There's nothing creepy about it.
B. If you want to talk about the housing affordability crisis maybe don't post an article that highlights the woes of a 40-year-old drunk driving friend killing tatted up mumble rapper felon who knocked up some chick who found ear grommets sexy.

Anyway, I'm happy to move on. Yes, for people who are young and play their cards right the world and our city is very unfair due to high housing costs, high interest rates and the myriad of other high costs.

If I ignore what you posted, you're definitely right. We cool?

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Best thing there is that in 2010 he managed to "own" a Toyota Tundra - which could not possibly have been any older than a 2000 model. Easily a house down payment right there compared to the money he must have sunk into that.

I'm old with no tattoos, but how much has he spent on ink? 10k?

Also- steer clear of the comments section on that article, everything is Trudeau's fault for this poor guy and his situation

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Sliver

You literally bolded the part where it talks about how a 40-year-old is experiencing the fading dream of home ownership.

I'm creepily fixated on your exact literal explicit words and citations?
A. There's nothing creepy about it.
B. If you want to talk about the housing affordability crisis maybe don't post an article that highlights the woes of a 40-year-old drunk driving friend killing tatted up mumble rapper felon who knocked up some chick who found ear grommets sexy.

Um, right...

• The whole article title was originally bolded, not just '40-Year-Old'. Very odd / creepy to be continually hellbent on focusing on the dude used as the subject example though... he's not what the message of the article is about. Think bigger.
• The article is about housing affordability. If there's another article out there that relays the same message but uses a different subject example, knock yourself out and share it then. I won't read it though, the article I linked already says the same thing.

Originally Posted by Sliver

Anyway, I'm happy to move on.

If I ignore what you posted, you're definitely right. We cool?

lol

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Muta

Um, right...

• The whole article title was originally bolded, not just '40-Year-Old'. Very odd / creepy to be continually hellbent on focusing on the dude used as the subject example though... he's not what the message of the article is about. Think bigger.
• The article is about housing affordability. If there's another article out there that relays the same message but uses a different subject example, knock yourself out and share it then. I won't read it though, the article I linked already says the same thing.

lol

I'll go read that other article you didn't post that proves your point as soon as you learn the definition of creepy.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I'll go read that other article you didn't post that proves your point as soon as you learn the definition of creepy.

That article homework is on you brother, not me. Remember to find one without a tattooed 40-year-old, it'll be easier on your mental health.

[PepsiFree]

I feel like Muta/Ozy overuse the creepy/obsessed card. There’s no way you guys find stuff this mundane “creepy.”

[Muta]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I feel like Muta/Ozy overuse the creepy/obsessed card. There’s no way you guys find stuff this mundane “creepy.”

It really is though. The article is about housing affordability, not the dude. The poster in question just cannot see the article through him.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Muta

It really is though. The article is about housing affordability, not the dude. The poster in question just cannot see the article through him.

I think it's creepy to refer to me in such a weird way.

Say my name.

Say it.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I think it's creepy to refer to me in such a weird way.

Say my name.

Say it.

Sliverster Stabone