Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Harry Lime]

Wasn't the rally yesterday? I'd expect today's camera would reflect the regular cannibals and strewn body parts.

[puffnstuff]

The 'leader' of the ditch dwelling freedumbers has claimed that Busboobs has agreed to meet with him.
What do yall think? Yes or no?

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

The 'leader' of the ditch dwelling freedumbers has claimed that Busboobs has agreed to meet with him.
What do yall think? Yes or no?

Are you asking if we believe she would agree to meet with them? I think she probably would.

[Harry Lime]

Make out sesh.

[GioforPM]

Drove by them again today. What a bunch of dumbasses.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

The 'leader' of the ditch dwelling freedumbers has claimed that Busboobs has agreed to meet with him.
What do yall think? Yes or no?

Why though? Like I’ve driven by a few times and it’s utterly meaningless. Their big issue is Justin Trudeau, so what does a meeting with the Premier even accomplish?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Slava

Why though? Like I’ve driven by a few times and it’s utterly meaningless. Their big issue is Justin Trudeau, so what does a meeting with the Premier even accomplish?

Danielle Smith Stands up to Ottawa!

She has Turdeau running scared!

If Sock Boy find out Danielle Smith is involved he will think again!

[Muta]

'It’s depressing being a 40-year-old stuck at home': Why the dream of homeownership is fading for many Calgarians

https://calgaryherald.com/business/d...alberta-fading

Jamil Thobani, a realtor in Calgary, said almost all properties he has sold were bought above their listing price, and nearly half of his clients are from outside the province.

“I’m telling you, there is a sense of frustration,” Thobani said. “It’s like, ‘Ah, we lost that one or we lost another one, we’re not going to find another place. Okay, my lease is coming up. I need to get out of this.’ Then they will maximize whatever they can and outbid the next person

Bit of a sobering, depressing read. I feel for young people looking to enter into the home ownership world in this province; it's absolutely unreachable for many, which never used to be the case prior to even five years ago. The wealthy class / rental agencies buying up all the real estate in a market of limited supply has really done damage to this demographic - amplified when people who don't even live here are buying up the property. The growing wealth gap is causing greater, and unsustainable, problems.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Slava

Why though? Like I’ve driven by a few times and it’s utterly meaningless. Their big issue is Justin Trudeau, so what does a meeting with the Premier even accomplish?

I think it’s pretty obvious, no?

[Ozy_Flame]

Regarding home ownership, I know it's tough out there for millenials and gen z'ers but until they start moving to places like Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Regina, or Edmonton, then I think part of it is city preference. Heck, cheap homes can still be had in red deer, Lethbridge and Medicine Hat.

Calgary is a highly desirable city but home and lease costs are rapidly inflating and show no signs of abatement. It would seem to me that is some out of province folks are really moving for home prices they might need to prioritize what's important. Personally being 'an hour from the mountains' might need to take a back seat so you can have a roof over your head.

Guts me that born-and-raised Calgarians who want to stay are being priced out of their own city.

[powderjunkie]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...rown-1.7213411

Further erosion to my faith in Alberta's justice system (and democracy in general). Which is perhaps a pretty big leap by me, but the perception is the bigger issue here.

Considering the police of all people determined internally that these cops broke the rules, then it's absolutely in the public interest to see this through.

Will be interesting to see how the civil action plays out.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Ron and Amanda can't understand why people keep giving them the finger....

https://www.threads.net/@cmcalgary/post/C7e5cGAJJPS

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...rown-1.7213411

Further erosion to my faith in Alberta's justice system (and democracy in general). Which is perhaps a pretty big leap by me, but the perception is the bigger issue here.

Considering the police of all people determined internally that these cops broke the rules, then it's absolutely in the public interest to see this through.

Will be interesting to see how the civil action plays out.

IANAL but I believe there can be quite a large gap between the investigation returning a "reasonable grounds to believe the officer committed a criminal offense" and having the actual evidence required to reasonably obtain a criminal conviction.

From what we can see, this seems pretty egregious, but if the hard evidence isn't there to win the case then it would just be wasted resources in an already overwhelmed legal system.

But even though a criminal conviction may not be possible, it seems like this was a serious offense and should have warranted more than a temporary demotion under the Police Act. I want the people hired to uphold the laws to be held to a much higher standard under their own act without it requiring to be "criminal".

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Ron and Amanda can't understand why people keep giving them the finger....

https://www.threads.net/@cmcalgary/post/C7e5cGAJJPS

Lol, these people are such pathetic losers.

[wireframe]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Regarding home ownership, I know it's tough out there for millenials and gen z'ers but until they start moving to places like Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Regina, or Edmonton, then I think part of it is city preference. Heck, cheap homes can still be had in red deer, Lethbridge and Medicine Hat.

Calgary is a highly desirable city but home and lease costs are rapidly inflating and show no signs of abatement. It would seem to me that is some out of province folks are really moving for home prices they might need to prioritize what's important. Personally being 'an hour from the mountains' might need to take a back seat so you can have a roof over your head.

Guts me that born-and-raised Calgarians who want to stay are being priced out of their own city.

Housing inflation is a wealth transfer from young to old. This is a national (international) disaster and the only fix is to tax housing gains until they are not a suitable investment. Of course, neither the government nor majority of home owners have the appetite to do that because GDP is built on housing wealth. As a millennial who owns a single-detached house in Calgary, I would be happy to see house prices crash tomorrow.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Regarding home ownership, I know it's tough out there for millenials and gen z'ers but until they start moving to places like Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Regina, or Edmonton, then I think part of it is city preference. Heck, cheap homes can still be had in red deer, Lethbridge and Medicine Hat.

Calgary is a highly desirable city but home and lease costs are rapidly inflating and show no signs of abatement. It would seem to me that is some out of province folks are really moving for home prices they might need to prioritize what's important. Personally being 'an hour from the mountains' might need to take a back seat so you can have a roof over your head.

Guts me that born-and-raised Calgarians who want to stay are being priced out of their own city.

It's going to become a pretty big issue as people move to the smaller centers, or less desirable geography. Decades of time and billions of dollars in infrastructure exist in Calgary and Edmonton, and having to abandon that (even as the cities grow) is going to engender a lot of bitterness.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by wireframe

As a millennial who owns a single-detached house in Calgary, I would be happy to see house prices crash tomorrow.

Man I hope so too, I'd actually have a realistic chance to buy a house then. Rich people and corporations can then #### off with their property hoarding.

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by belsarius

IANAL but I believe there can be quite a large gap between the investigation returning a "reasonable grounds to believe the officer committed a criminal offense" and having the actual evidence required to reasonably obtain a criminal conviction.

From what we can see, this seems pretty egregious, but if the hard evidence isn't there to win the case then it would just be wasted resources in an already overwhelmed legal system.

But even though a criminal conviction may not be possible, it seems like this was a serious offense and should have warranted more than a temporary demotion under the Police Act. I want the people hired to uphold the laws to be held to a much higher standard under their own act without it requiring to be "criminal".

I cant find it at the moment but there was a thread on twitter highlighting at least 6 instances of ASIRT finding fault with police actions and the Crown choosing not to prosecute. And of the former head of ASIRT resigning and why.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by belsarius

IANAL but I believe there can be quite a large gap between the investigation returning a "reasonable grounds to believe the officer committed a criminal offense" and having the actual evidence required to reasonably obtain a criminal conviction.

From what we can see, this seems pretty egregious, but if the hard evidence isn't there to win the case then it would just be wasted resources in an already overwhelmed legal system.

But even though a criminal conviction may not be possible, it seems like this was a serious offense and should have warranted more than a temporary demotion under the Police Act. I want the people hired to uphold the laws to be held to a much higher standard under their own act without it requiring to be "criminal".

I think this is likely the case, but they also [are supposed to] weigh the public interest.

Link is a pdf: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour..._PokSVNOiSWuR7

While it is not possible to prepare a precise list of situations in which consultation is required or even preferred, the following principles are applicable. Prosecutors are strongly encouraged to consult with supervisors and experienced colleagues in regard to the decision to prosecute significant or unusual cases. The determination of whether a case is significant requires judgment by the prosecutor involved. The following are examples of cases that would, in the norm, be regarded as significant:

1. A case involving a death;
2. Charges against public figures or persons involved in the administration of justice;
3. Criminal conduct involving gang or group activity;
4. Prosecutions which require an expanded or novel interpretation of the governing
legislation or which engage significant Charter issues; or
5. Cases which have attracted or will attract significant media attention, or which will likely
be of public interest when presented in court.

For personal and political reasons, LEO's targeted a legislator from the party that is historically (and presumptively into the future) sitting in opposition. It is a big step - but not actually a giant leap - to something like Putin's goons murdering Navalny. I'd rather not take even a baby step in that direction.

The court system being so horrifically underfunded that it couldn't possibly deal with this kind of case also does not fill me with warm and fuzzies. Even if a conviction is unlikely, a fulsome and transparent airing of the facts is definitely in the public interest.


Our premier has attempted (successfully?) to improperly influence the justice system. The previous two justice Ministers have both gone beyond the pale. It's just gross.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Lol, these people are such pathetic losers.

How to say that you failed Social Studies 10 without saying you failed Social Studies 10.