Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[The Fisher Account]

It's obviously not PC to say this (pun intended) but rural Alberta is holding the progress of this province back IMMENSELY.

[InglewoodFan]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

So Smith, Loewen and Jean walked into a forum tonight to discuss Alberta.

Crazy things were said.

Smith leading in the polls.

Ya'll need a miracle.

I read some of the highlights, we are utterly ####ed in this province.

[kermitology]

You thought Jason Kenney was bad.. you ain’t seen nothing yet.

[chedder]

Top of those polls are a person who is bats#$t crazy and a religious, handmaid tale, whackjob. We truly are doomed. I can only hope this pushes people, that wouldn't otherwise, to vote ndp next spring.

[Wastedyouth]

Danielle Smith wont be peoples second ballot. She may have a lead after the first round, but I bet she loses in the end.

[Ashartus]

Jean sure seems to have fallen from frontrunner to third, though I could still see him getting in as everyone's second choice. Regardless I sure hope an election gets called sooner rather than later so we don't have a complete nutcase running the province for a year with no accountability and no mandate from voters.

[Ozy_Flame]

Six months of Danielle Smith as Premier is going to be an absolute trainwreck. She'll try and shove through her separatist, freedumb agenda.

Things she said last night effectively demonstrates she wants to wrap judicial and enforcement matters under Alberta control, ignore any federal laws they don't like, take full control of the income tax system, obliterate AHS and the CPSA/"Uberize healthcare", freedoms are more important than health measures, start funding homeopathic and alternative medicines, remove any support for public environmentalism, use the "Canadian forest" as a carbon sink instead, and use the Sovereignty Act as a way to prevent against the WEF/Great Reset.

Anyone who keeps saying "can't let the NDP ruin this province" is obviously not paying attention to dangerous rhetoric coming out of the far-right wing that is on track to take power this October.

Moderates - the ball is in your court to stop this dangerous concoction of libertarianism and conspiracy-laden bull#####.

[Inglewood Jack]

yea but have you ever experienced a royalty review before?

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

yea but have you ever experienced a royalty review before?

That lightbulb program gave us all a good corn-holin'.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Ashartus

Jean sure seems to have fallen from frontrunner to third, though I could still see him getting in as everyone's second choice. Regardless I sure hope an election gets called sooner rather than later so we don't have a complete nutcase running the province for a year with no accountability and no mandate from voters.

He seriously sucks. And he keeps proving it every day. He is trying to woo Smith's ridiculous base, but also have no ability to propose useful policy. He's the worst of both worlds.

[PsYcNeT]

Give me 6 months of a milquetoast do-nothing over 6 months of an ideologue populist.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Anyone who keeps saying "can't let the NDP ruin this province" is obviously not paying attention to dangerous rhetoric coming out of the far-right wing that is on track to take power this October.

Ozy you’ve been away from the province for too long, “can’t let the NDP ruin this province” is part of the dangerous rhetoric.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Ozy you’ve been away from the province for too long, “can’t let the NDP ruin this province” is part of the dangerous rhetoric.

Not long enough apparently.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Six months of Danielle Smith as Premier is going to be an absolute trainwreck. She'll try and shove through her separatist, freedumb agenda.

Things she said last night effectively demonstrates she wants to wrap judicial and enforcement matters under Alberta control, ignore any federal laws they don't like, take full control of the income tax system, obliterate AHS and the CPSA/"Uberize healthcare", freedoms are more important than health measures, start funding homeopathic and alternative medicines, remove any support for public environmentalism, use the "Canadian forest" as a carbon sink instead, and use the Sovereignty Act as a way to prevent against the WEF/Great Reset.

Anyone who keeps saying "can't let the NDP ruin this province" is obviously not paying attention to dangerous rhetoric coming out of the far-right wing that is on track to take power this October.

Moderates - the ball is in your court to stop this dangerous concoction of libertarianism and conspiracy-laden bull#####.

The mere fact these candidates attended a forum sponsored by the Alberta Prosperity Project and Rebel News is all you really need to know.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Anyone who keeps saying "can't let the NDP ruin this province" is obviously not paying attention to dangerous rhetoric coming out of the far-right wing that is on track to take power this October.

Is this really where we are as a province, where the current government led by Jason Kenney is not considered "far-right wing"?

Let's call a spade a spade: we already have a far-right wing government in Alberta. We're now poised to have a lunatic fringe extremist far-right wing government in Alberta.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Yamer

The mere fact these candidates attended a forum sponsored by the Alberta Prosperity Project and Rebel News is all you really need to know.

Travis Toews and Rebecca Schulz were supposed to attend but only pulled out because it was publicly exposed who the organizers are. I have no doubt they would have been there too if it went under the radar.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Travis Toews and Rebecca Schulz were supposed to attend but only pulled out because it was publicly exposed who the organizers are. I have no doubt they would have been there too if it went under the radar.

I talked to Rebecca about it last week. She said her staff booked her to the event when she saw everyone that was going (the other leaders), but once they realized who was sponsoring/leading it she pulled out and talked to Travis about it as well.

She said she is willing and wanting to make sure she listens to everyone in Alberta who wants to hear her speak, but that this event was far too polarized and she said the views expressed there were not ones she could support, either morally or policy wise.

I know the default is to assume everyone sucks, and mostly, they do. But assuming that every candidate is morally bankrupt is nihilistic, imo.

[TheIronMaiden]

The trouble with folks who hold extreme views is they 100% show up and support because they think they're lives depend on it. Centrists, in general are much more apathetic.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I talked to Rebecca about it last week. She said her staff booked her to the event when she saw everyone that was going (the other leaders), but once they realized who was sponsoring/leading it she pulled out and talked to Travis about it as well.

You just basically proved what I said. Her campaign didn't do their diligence, the organizers and their objectives started getting publicized, they pulled out. The organizers, like any one else, probably found out online what the Alberta Prosperity Project actually was.

And what kind of campaign blindly signs up their candidate when others sign up? Surely they know there are extremist candidates and the Pied Piper approach is a fools errand?

Of course Schulz is going to defend her side. She's the one on the hot seat here.

At least Sawhaney and Aheer didn't even bother. They were smart enough to do so before the event was publicized.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

You just basically proved what I said. Her campaign didn't do their diligence, the organizers and their objectives started getting publicized, they pulled out. The organizers, like any one else, probably found out online what the Alberta Prosperity Project actually was.

And what kind of campaign blindly signs up their candidate when others sign up? Surely they know there are extremist candidates and the Pied Piper approach is a fools errand?

Of course Schulz is going to defend her side. She's the one on the hot seat here.

At least Sawhaney and Aheer didn't even bother. They were smart enough to do so before the event was publicized.

Right. So they (Travis and Rebecca) make the right decision and backed out with more information available.

You are acting like making a mistake, learning and adjusting and making a better decision is a bad thing? This is what our leaders SHOULD be doing, rather than doubling down on stupidity. Accountability is something we should be looking for, not perfection.

You have no idea if Sawhaney or Aheer did the same or didnt bother to book it. They might not have bothered because they know their campaigns are a lost cause and are going through the motions at this point.