2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[dissentowner]

We don't need Boeser, as a matter of fact we don't need anything but time for the players we have to gel and the new guys to get comfortable with Sutter's system.

[Lanny_McDonald]

We need one more top six player. This is not a playoff team without another player that can score. Whether that comes from within the system or through a trade, the Flames are still a body short. Boeser would fit the need but is expensive as balls.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Boy at one stage I really though the Canuck's had a good re-tool going.
Pettersson/Horvat up the middle, dynamic dman in Hughes, some scoring wingers to compliment and a #1 goalie in Demko.
It's all gone very wrong. I can't figure out what their play is with Horvat, who seems like their best overall player, that they are going to walk to UFA.

They made the same mistake other Canadian teams have (including the Flames) trying to kick open their contending window too early.


I don't like the Canucks but Boeser seems like a good guy who has had a very rough couple years on and off the ice. Was kinda happy to see hims core last night and if he had potted the OT winner on that chance, it would have been pretty cool.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Wouldn’t mind Lucic leaving for Boeser. Would easily offer Lucic + cond. 2023 1st contingent on Flames making playoffs, carry over to next season if they don’t + a good prospect for Boeser

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Wouldn’t mind Lucic leaving for Boeser. Would easily offer Lucic + cond. 2023 1st contingent on Flames making playoffs, carry over to next season if they don’t + a good prospect for Boeser

In terms of a prospect you are looking at one of the big 4 (Coronato, Wolf, Zary, Pelletier) and I'm not sure that even gets it done.

Plus you still create a cap issue for next season as Lucic comes off the books and you are adding Boeser.
Realistically the Flames best chance to acquire a top 6 forward is to trade a Dman, which would be even more of a possibility if Kylington was available, particularly with the further emergence of Big Z.

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

We need our star players to be better, but Dillion Dube is still in our top six. We need another .

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

In terms of a prospect you are looking at one of the big 4 (Coronato, Wolf, Zary, Pelletier) and I'm not sure that even gets it done.

Plus you still create a cap issue for next season as Lucic comes off the books and you are adding Boeser.
Realistically the Flames best chance to acquire a top 6 forward is to trade a Dman, which would be even more of a possibility if Kylington was available, particularly with the further emergence of Big Z.

I would be comfortable moving Hanifin if Kylington was back

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Mangiapane has more goals this season still, and more over the last 4 seasons combined (76-66)….so not sure how he’s a one year wonder and Boeser is some representation of consistency.

I’m guessing Boeser has a lot more top unit PP time too. Mangiapane had a rough first 20, but so have many of the teams forward group, and Boeser has struggled even more these last two years.

Boeser
26 16 23 23

Mangiapane
8 17 18 35

Only season Brock hasn't scored 20 goals was the 16 goal season.

Mangiapane looks more like 17-20 goal guy than the 35 goal guy who talked about 8 million and 45 goals. We dodged a massive bullet not taking to whatever long term deal they presented.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Boeser retained for Lucic makes a lot of sense for both sides.

They clear cap as this is Lucic last season he gets to go home and help repair that locker room.

We get scoring.

[Enoch Root]

Flames need another winger, but there is only room for one move, and Boeser isn't it. We need someone with speed

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Boeser retained for Lucic makes a lot of sense for both sides.

They clear cap as this is Lucic last season he gets to go home and help repair that locker room.

We get scoring.

I’m pretty sure Canucks could do better than that. Not sure why they would want lucic , who really shouldn’t be playing every game.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Flames need another winger, but there is only room for one move, and Boeser isn't it. We need someone with speed

I agree we need speed.

The issue is cap space and this franchises obsession with wasting picks going to the market every single time.

The obvious answer is for the time being we have someone who can fill that hole but for some reason we want to sit on our hands and wait for the chance to trade more draft picks and prospects.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

We need our star players to be better, but Dillion Dube is still in our top six. We need another .

Dillon Dube after a slow start is turning into a fine top 6 winger. We don't need to blow futures for another winger at this point. What we need is patience.

[SaskyFlamesFan]

If the Flames are moving Lucic and picks/prospects it had to be somebody with no term left after this year. Or somebody else has to move in the off season. They have no cap space next year. I hope they try getting Meier and attach a big conditional if he re-signs, then don’t qualify him and let him walk.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Boeser retained for Lucic makes a lot of sense for both sides.

They clear cap as this is Lucic last season he gets to go home and help repair that locker room.

We get scoring.

Except for the Canucks LOL.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by SaskyFlamesFan

If the Flames are moving Lucic and picks/prospects it had to be somebody with no term left after this year. Or somebody else has to move in the off season. They have no cap space next year. I hope they try getting Meier and attach a big conditional if he re-signs, then don’t qualify him and let him walk.

Meier would require lots of prospects/ draft capital regardless of him resigning.

They won’t get a rental like Meier cheaply.

[sureLoss]

Conditions based on whether someone re-signs are also no longer allowed if the player has a contract when he is traded.

The PA felt that such conditions could potentially reduce the number of suitors for a player, so they took it out in the 2020 MOU

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I agree we need speed.

The issue is cap space and this franchises obsession with wasting picks going to the market every single time.

The obvious answer is for the time being we have someone who can fill that hole but for some reason we want to sit on our hands and wait for the chance to trade more draft picks and prospects.

False dichotomy and a silly argument.

Boeser isn't what they need. But you're suggesting that they get Boeser so that they don't do something stupid.

Also, they should be doing something 'for the time being', they should be looking for the right piece.

The best plan is to continue to bank cap space, and assess where they are at, then look at add the RIGHT piece, closer to the deadline.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

False dichotomy and a silly argument.

Boeser isn't what they need. But you're suggesting that they get Boeser so that they don't do something stupid.

Also, they should be doing something 'for the time being', they should be looking for the right piece.

The best plan is to continue to bank cap space, and assess where they are at, then look at add the RIGHT piece, closer to the deadline.

No I was saying the obvious answer is Matthew Phillips for the time being not Brock.

[Enoch Root]

oh ok, sorry

yes, that is a much more sensible plan