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Old 10-10-2020, 12:16 PM   #81
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I non snarkily asked on HF how this contract fits into the team when what they need is D-men strong in their own end and a goalie.

The response I got was that Russell, Nurse and Bear (Who they now have to move out a contract to re-sign) are strong enough defensively that none of that matters

......huh?!?!?!
Well yours went better than mine, I asked a similar question 5 minutes ago and got an infraction along with the message being deleted lol.
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Old 10-10-2020, 12:16 PM   #82
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It's a good contract, no doubt about it, I just question the overall situation in Edmonton and how this fits
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Old 10-10-2020, 12:18 PM   #83
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So did McDavid text him and tell him he needed to give 250k back?
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Old 10-10-2020, 12:25 PM   #84
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Well yours went better than mine, I asked a similar question 5 minutes ago and got an infraction along with the message being deleted lol.
Don't worry, I have my fair share of those over there. One time I asked why a Canucks mod was allowed to be an insulting homer but nobody else was. They didn't like that
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It's a good contract, no doubt about it, I just question the overall situation in Edmonton and how this fits
It's literally, given the note that both Seravelli and now Dreger have felt/been asked to include in their comments (were there comments about any other UFA who signed yesterday what other offers were turned down? No) the Oilers think this shows the ability to find and attract someone not scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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Wo this is one of the best signings of free agency. Hate the Oilers but can't hate on this deal. I would rather the Flames have done something like this over Tanev's four year deal.
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Think it's a good signing

For both, barrie gets a lot of hate because of being in toronto, but he wasn't bad last year, just below expectations... I remember after that trade tsn had him and Reilly both hitting 60+ points so he was really set up to fail expectations wise

Hes not great defensively but hes still a net positive on the ice, and hes probably a top 10 up qb

Seravelli and dreger both parroting the 'he took less line' though is so transparent that it came from the oilers, Lowe loves to do stuff like that, same with saying they had every draft pick much higher on their board... when you say it all the time it loses its meaning
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I was very concerned that the Flames were going to sign Barrie because he seems so flawed.

It must be difficult to be a thinking Oiler fan right now. "Fantastic term, great salary, player who fills none of our needs"

Cue the jokes about thinking Oiler fans
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Old 10-10-2020, 12:33 PM   #89
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Tyson Barrie turned down more money elsewhere to join the #Oilers, including a $6 million offer.
He says $6 million offer. No mention of term.

It was probably $6 million over 2 years.

Edmonton is just desperately trying to validate itself by signing anyone whether it addresses a need or not.
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Think it's a good signing

For both, barrie gets a lot of hate because of being in toronto, but he wasn't bad last year, just below expectations... I remember after that trade tsn had him and Reilly both hitting 60+ points so he was really set up to fail expectations wise

Hes not great defensively but hes still a net positive on the ice, and hes probably a top 10 up qb

Seravelli and dreger both parroting the 'he took less line' though is so transparent that it came from the oilers, Lowe loves to do stuff like that, same with saying they had every draft pick much higher on their board... when you say it all the time it loses its meaning

A team that doesn't have one real positionally sound blueliner that can take care of its own end, really shouldn't be signing Barrie. They probably should have taken a run at a guy like Hamonic, that would have made some logical sense.



Frankly right now the Oilers have the Red Sea of blueline and Barrie is the Moses.
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Anyone who willingly takes less to play in Edmonton is not a smart person.
Learned his financial acumen from his old man Len.
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Old 10-10-2020, 12:38 PM   #92
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Gotta laugh at the Oiler Improving their 'defence' by adding the a one dimensional powerplant specialist.
Hiring a powerplant specialist for their hockey team is sooooo edmonton.
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Wo this is one of the best signings of free agency. Hate the Oilers but can't hate on this deal. I would rather the Flames have done something like this over Tanev's four year deal.
Unless the Flames have McDavid and the #1PP in the league for Barrie to pad his stats, that comment is irrelevant.
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A team that doesn't have one real positionally sound blueliner that can take care of its own end, really shouldn't be signing Barrie. They probably should have taken a run at a guy like Hamonic, that would have made some logical sense.



Frankly right now the Oilers have the Red Sea of blueline and Barrie is the Moses.
Barrie is much better, even with not being great in his own zone, his team generates more offense than it allows when hes on

Hamonic has never been as effective, he may allow less goals than barrie when hes on the ice, but they are scoring way less

They did lack a legit offensive d man too, it was a need, and at a 1 year deal it's a huge positive
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Good signing by the oilers.
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We'll have to agree to disagree. He dropped like a stone last year and was negative and that's with all world offensive talent in front of him.



The Oilers will have no shut down ability, and be pinned in their zone all night long and probably get less offensive chances for the I don't play defense twosome up front.
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Old 10-10-2020, 12:53 PM   #97
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Wow, other offers must have been brutal. That's not a bad AAV, but the fact that he was only willing to sign for 1 year is telling

Not that much else will matter without a goalie
Telling in what sense? I think Barrie realizes that the upcoming season is a huge year for him to try and increase his value back up in the league after a tough season in Toronto, so a strong single season makes sense for him playing with Mcdavid on their top PP unit. It's a good risk to take rather than settle on a lower number after a bad year or a multiple year contract.

From an Oilers perspective, the player isn't what they need on D, but this is how they build teams up there.
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Old 10-10-2020, 12:54 PM   #98
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Barrie takes less to sign with the Oilers. 1 year, $3.75 mil. Had at least two other larger offers.
Have to laugh that they feel the need to included that to make it seem like players are willing to take less to play in Edmonton. Barrie is taking the 1 year deal to pump his stats playing on that PP then signing a huge deal next year.

How come they didn’t spin the Markstrom deal as him turning down longer term to sign with Calgary?? That’s how I’m going to talk about the deal moving forward hahahaha
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Good signing by the oilers.
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Telling in what sense? I think Barrie realizes that the upcoming season is a huge year for him to try and increase his value back up in the league after a tough season in Toronto, so a strong single season makes sense for him playing with Mcdavid on their top PP unit. It's a good risk to take rather than settle on a lower number after a bad year or a multiple year contract.

From an Oilers perspective, the player isn't what they need on D, but this is how they build teams up there.
Telling that the way to land big UFA's in Edmonton is if they view it as a stepping stone to go elsewhere asap
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