02-08-2019, 12:14 PM
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#241
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Originally Posted by Bingo
The Flames don't have a goaltending issue. They have one of the best starters, and one of the worst backups which gives them middling team save percentage.
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Unlike having two average goaltenders, this gives you an obvious path to improve the team.
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02-08-2019, 12:18 PM
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#242
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by SebC
Unlike having two average goaltenders, this gives you an obvious path to improve the team.
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I just wouldn't expend the assets to upgrade the position. The only way you do it is if its cheap, but if that's the case I don't think you honestly know if you're actually upgrading the position.
Most teams head into the playoffs knowing an injury to their best forward, goaltender or defenseman will sink their chances.
I'm good with that.
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02-08-2019, 12:33 PM
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#243
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Bingo
I just wouldn't expend the assets to upgrade the position. The only way you do it is if its cheap, but if that's the case I don't think you honestly know if you're actually upgrading the position.
Most teams head into the playoffs knowing an injury to their best forward, goaltender or defenseman will sink their chances.
I'm good with that.
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Here is the way I look at it ...
Mike Smith will likely play another ten games down the stretch:
· one of each of the three remaining back-to-backs — (@NYI+ @NJD; @VGK+ @Arz; v.NYR+@Wpg)
· a selection from seven more games v. sub-.500 teams ( @Fla, v.Arz, v.Anh, @Ott, v.Ott, v.LAK, v.Anh)
· one or two of three more games in April when the team is likely icing a non-playoff roster ( @LAK, @Anh, v.Edm)
My choices are in bold. Among this group of games I think it is likely that Smith will win at least six, and probably seven. The question then is how many more will another, different back-up goaltender win? And more to the point, how much is the team willing to spend in acquiring him?
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02-08-2019, 01:07 PM
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#244
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: North of the River, South of the Bluff
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle
I can't believe some of the Smith comments, but then I also see they are balanced out with some reasonable comments in his defense.
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There are plenty of reasonable comments that Flames have a major risk in net. There is reasonable comments to be made that the Flames should look to improve the position. I am not suggesting at any cost, but they should absolutely try.
I don't think many reasonable people thought Smith lost us the game. Many of us do look at his larger body of work and see a guy cartwheeling around taking bullets in front of the net. That play on his penalty was atrocious, the final goal all over the place was bad too.
Flames went all the way to the end with Kipper and Turek. Fair enough, except Turek I feel could be trusted not to have Yakety Sax as his theme music. If we do the same we'll see Smith at some point. I'd like us to have a chance at least to clutch one out of the jaws, instead of thinking "oh great here we go..."
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02-08-2019, 01:20 PM
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#245
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: compton
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Mike Smith makes everyone else's job harder. They have to expend more energy trying to keep a narrower lead or have to claw their way back from a deficit. Precious beautiful energy that could be saved for the playoffs when it matters most.
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02-08-2019, 01:22 PM
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#246
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by icecube
Mike Smith makes everyone else's job harder. They have to expend more energy trying to keep a narrower lead or have to claw their way back from a deficit. Precious beautiful energy that could be saved for the playoffs when it matters most.
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Last night it would have been nice if the team made Smith's job easier by not making his first shot be a grade A chance.
Maybe the team should just play really well no matter who is in net.
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02-08-2019, 06:34 PM
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#247
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Well, the brutal turnover on the second goal was Rittich's own. On the first, turnover or not, that was a pee wee shot. Even I would have stopped it.
That said, I agree with the rest. Rittich was god awful last night, but there is no reason not to expect him to bounce back tomorrow.
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It was Bennett's turnover
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02-08-2019, 06:38 PM
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#248
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Samonadreau
It was Bennett's turnover
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Then Rittich did.
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02-08-2019, 06:40 PM
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#249
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Samonadreau
It was Bennett's turnover
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Bennett turned the puck over at the offensive blue-line. Rittich gave the puck to Burns who then had an empty net. Both were very bad, to blame Bennett alone is...odd.
Reducing a goal against to one play, especially this goal, is ridiculous. Usually a goal against is a combination of multiple players making mistakes. In this case, Bennett and Rittich both screwed up. You could also argue that the entire PP2 unit was caught flat footed. Ryan over-committed on it as well.
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02-08-2019, 07:05 PM
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#250
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Scoring Winger
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Just a thought. Would you prefer Rittich staying in the net and allow Burns breakaway? Knowing Rittich is not as good as Smith playing the puck but is much better at making saves, maybe it would have been a better choice? But most importantly, do you think he would have been pulled had he stayed in and Burns picked a corner? I got to think that would not have been considered a weak goal.
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02-08-2019, 07:09 PM
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#251
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Rittich coming out was the right play...its what he did once he got the puck, that was as wrong as it gets...but none of it happens without the blueline turnover.
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02-08-2019, 07:09 PM
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#252
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by gamesaver
Just a thought. Would you prefer Rittich staying in the net and allow Burns breakaway? Knowing Rittich is not as good as Smith playing the puck but is much better at making saves, maybe it would have been a better choice? But most importantly, do you think he would have been pulled had he stayed in and Burns picked a corner? I got to think that would not have been considered a weak goal.
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Best play may have been to cover the puck and take the minor penalty.
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02-08-2019, 07:18 PM
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#253
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Rittich coming out was the right play...its what he did once he got the puck, that was as wrong as it gets...but none of it happens without the blueline turnover.
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It was also a good read by Burns. As a goalie handling the puck, his options are very limited, he really could only go one way with that puck without make an adjustment while handling it, which could end up being just as egregious.
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02-08-2019, 07:26 PM
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#254
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Best play may have been to cover the puck and take the minor penalty.
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Immediately hard off the boards.
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02-08-2019, 07:29 PM
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#255
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Immediately hard off the boards.
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I thought that too at first, but there was another Sharks player right behind Burns following up the play. It was difficult to know what to do.
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02-08-2019, 07:42 PM
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#256
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Regina
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That game was frustrating to watch in so many ways
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02-08-2019, 08:56 PM
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#258
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by gamesaver
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Clicked the link expecting it to be exactly what it was.
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02-08-2019, 11:53 PM
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#259
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Bennett turned the puck over at the offensive blue-line. Rittich gave the puck to Burns who then had an empty net. Both were very bad, to blame Bennett alone is...odd.
Reducing a goal against to one play, especially this goal, is ridiculous. Usually a goal against is a combination of multiple players making mistakes. In this case, Bennett and Rittich both screwed up. You could also argue that the entire PP2 unit was caught flat footed. Ryan over-committed on it as well.
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Not Blaming Bennett, just stating it's what caused the basically breakaway if Rittich doesn't go after the puck. Rittich clearly didn't have his best game which i made clear earlier.
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