Where does Gaudreau rank among all time Flames forwards?

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by jlh2640

Hes getting up there hopefully we keep him as long as Jarome

Well, maybe not quite as long as Jarome. Would be nice to get a good return on an asset for the future instead of a bag of magic beans
(I know what you mean't though, it just had to be said).

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by dino7c

When did Iggy win MVP? division title and western title don't mean much to me.

Scoring title I will give you but JG will likely pass Iggy's single season high this year.

All this being said they are both in my top 3

He won the Pearson which is the MVP voted by the players, and that's the one that counts.



Johnny needs longevity with this club to be considered one of the greats. Flames have had some incredible players make stops here i.e.: Brett Hull, but that doesn't make Brett Hull one of the greatest Flames. Both Johnny's and Brett's body of work with the Flames so far do not put them near the greats.



We probably just have different definition of a Flames great, hence the disagreement.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

When did Iggy win MVP? division title and western title don't mean much to me.

Scoring title I will give you but JG will likely pass Iggy's single season high this year.

All this being said they are both in my top 3

Pearson aside Iggy won the MVP in 2002, similar to how the Flames won the Cup in 2004. Robbery doesn't count.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by theslymonkey

I'm old enough to have watched the entire careers of Theo and Iginla, and Johnny isn't there yet. If you were around to watch what those two did in their prime, you would know that what they did was equally if not greater that what Johnny is doing now.

Theo was unreal in a time where the little guys didn't have a chance. It just didn't make sense that he was able to survive out there, nevermind dominate the game and put up the points he did.

Iggy in his prime owned the game. Sure his point totals where lower for an MVP, but he put up the points in 03 while dragging around guys like Pronger and Hatcher on his back. Iggy was a one man wrecking ball and did it without anyone to support him.

I want to put Johnny up there behind them, but right now he's in the mix with Roberts, Nieuwy, Mullen and Lanny. They all were amazing, but played on a stacked team and didn't have the length of GP with the Flames. Right now I think we all need to hope Johnny stays long term and then we can anoint him up with Iggy and Theo.

Gaudreau=Makarov They are both so similar. I thought Makarov had the better shot but in the past 3 months Johnny has upped his game.

Also Roberts will never be in the mix. He was an awesome plugger. He won't be in the top 25 of most talented Flames ever.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Okay people......... Backlund? I had to re-read those posts to figure out if people were joking.

And then Huselius as one of the top 3 most talented in franchise history? What?

Jesus. Anyway, but what this thread does reveal, again, quite clearly and as has been mentioned so many times in the past- is that it’s a disgrace to the Flames franchise to not have properly retired Fleury.

The #1 reason that Fleury's number hasn't be retired is Fleury.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The #1 reason that Fleury's number hasn't be retired is Fleury.

Expand on this.


Was it his substance abuse while playing? Did he disparage the club? I know he loves to self aggrandize, but that's not a reason to not retire a deserving jersey.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Expand on this.


Was it his substance abuse while playing? Did he disparage the club? I know he loves to self aggrandize, but that's not a reason to not retire a deserving jersey.

My view is that it likely has to do with him disparaging the club.
Which he hasn't done lately so perhaps it will happen soon
This year is Iginla though.
So perhaps next year
I imagine when it happens it won't be a retirement but rather a Forever a Flame.

[David Struch]

Considering Johnny is only 4 1/2 seasons into his NHL career, I think it goes without saying the actual title of this thread should be, Where WILL Gaudreau rank among all time Flames forwards?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I'd rather they just not retire jerseys at all than Forever a Flame people.