2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Kylington for an extended Tavares straight up, E9.

Gonna need to ship one of these to Treliving then.

[robaur]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Do the Flames really need another soft center? Tavares is pretty much a slightly better version of Monahan.

If we are going to totally handcuff our self with a $10 million dollar contract I want someone better than Tavares. He isn't good defensively and hasn't been able to take the islanders far in the playoffs. Not totally his fault but he's a little over rated.

I would not trade Monahan for Tavares at what hes going to get on his new contract.

LOLOLOLOLOL

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Do the Flames really need another soft center? Tavares is pretty much a slightly better version of Monahan.

If we are going to totally handcuff our self with a $10 million dollar contract I want someone better than Tavares. He isn't good defensively and hasn't been able to take the islanders far in the playoffs. Not totally his fault but he's a little over rated.

I would not trade Monahan for Tavares at what hes going to get on his new contract.

Tavares is much much much better than Monahan. I really love Monahan but they're not even close. I honestly believe Tavares is in the Tier of players just below Crosby and McDavid. If his team wasn't such a dumpster fire we'd hear a lot more about him.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Do the Flames really need another soft center? Tavares is pretty much a slightly better version of Monahan.

If we are going to totally handcuff our self with a $10 million dollar contract I want someone better than Tavares. He isn't good defensively and hasn't been able to take the islanders far in the playoffs. Not totally his fault but he's a little over rated.

I would not trade Monahan for Tavares at what hes going to get on his new contract.

I've got to take a break.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Tavares is much much much better than Monahan. I really love Monahan but they're not even close. I honestly believe Tavares is in the Tier of players just below Crosby and McDavid. If his team wasn't such a dumpster fire we'd hear a lot more about him.

He's soft, not that good defensively and scores at a slightly higher rate than Monahan. The difference isn't as big as you think.

Monahan is also soft and not that good defensively. At the same contract I would take Tavares but he's going to be getting around $10 million a year and I don't think there is a $4 million dollar difference in what he brings.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by robaur

LOLOLOLOLOL

Seems like people get their info from the media who has been hyping him for years.

Hes a 30 goal soft average defensive center.

[bigrangy]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Seems like people get their info from the media was has been hyping him for years.

Hes a 30 goal soft average defensive center.

McDingus is a 30 goal soft average defensive center

Tavares is a level above Monahan and would help this team considerably. If he was willing to sign a 8x10 here trading Monahan for him would be a trade the Flames would win. I wouldn't want to do it because I like Monahan a lot but Tavares is an undeniable improvement.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

McDingus is a 30 goal soft average defensive center

Tavares is a level above Monahan and would help this team considerably. If he was willing to sign a 8x10 here trading Monahan for him would be a trade the Flames would win. I wouldn't want to do it because I like Monahan a lot but Tavares is an undeniable improvement.

I said he was a step above Monahan but it's not as wide as people seem to think

What does Tavares offer that Monahan doesn't which would make you want to trade him and give up $4 more million in cap space?

Both soft? Check

Both 30 goal scorers? Check

Both not that good defensively? Check

Tavares is a better passer and that's the difference.

The grass isn't always greener. Tavares is just as inconsistent as Monahan is at times.

[robaur]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

I said he was a step above Monahan but it's not as wide as people seem to think

What does Tavares offer that Monahan doesn't which would make you want to trade him and give up $4 more million in cap space?

Both soft? Check

Both 30 goal scorers? Check

Both not that good defensively? Check

Tavares is a better passer and that's the difference.

The grass isn't always greener. Tavares is just as inconsistent as Monahan is at times.

Oh jeez. I can't believe I'm actually responding to this.

Tavares isn't soft. Have you spent much time watching him? The man is a beast on the puck. Both 30 goal scorers? Sure....but Tavares generates offence for himself and elevates the game of his teammates. Monahan isn't even close to being on this level yet as he is the recipient of a lot of his offence through Gaudreau.

A guy that has put up over point per game totals in 4 seasons is not just slightly better than Monahan who is pretty at this point...a 60 point center...

And Tavares is not bad in his own end...the guy has even started to PK now FFS. Please stop the terrible comparison. Monahan is nowhere near the level of Tavares. If JT played with Gaudreau, he would be a 90+ point Center.



Last couple of years, JT has had no one to play with and still he is a career 0.92 pts/game #1 Franchise Center.......something Monahan will never be.

[VladtheImpaler]

I don't weigh in on these theoretical discussions often, but the main, and most important, difference between Monahan and Tavares is that Tavares makes others better; Monahan doesn't, or at least not at this point.

[Red Potato Standing By]

Probably a good thing the crumpy one was banned last night, he would be losing his #### right about now...lol

[nightfx]

Tavares is amazing and would make the Flames a top contender, his salary will probably make balancing the team an issue though.

[H2SO4(aq)]

Big fan of mony but what an outrageous thing to say. Tavares is arguably one of the top 5 players in the world.

[DomeFoam]

Monahan is good at finding open space so he can get a clear shot off, which is undeniably his best asset and the root of his offensive success thus far in the league. Tavares creates offence. He opens up the play so the guys on his team, not unlike Monahan, can receive a pass but they often fail to do anything with it. Not Tavares' fault.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by DomeFoam

Monahan is good at finding open space so he can get a clear shot off, which is undeniably his best asset and the root of his offensive success thus far in the league. Tavares creates offence. He opens up the play so the guys on his team, not unlike Monahan, can receive a pass but they often fail to do anything with it. Not Tavares' fault.

Yep, Tavares would flourish with Gaudreau.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Since Monahan entered the league, there's been 5 centers with a better PPG than Tavares. McDavid, Crosby, Malkin, Seguin and Backstrom. He hasn't had a ton in terms of wingers either, Bailey's been on his line a lot and has a career high 16 goals, not to mention pretty much everyone plays amazingly better with Tavares. I think all you need to do is look at Anders Lee's career to see how dominate Tavares really is.

23 year old Anders Lee was an AHL player.

24 year old Anders Lee was a 27 goal scorer in 2014-2015 playing with Tavares and Bailey.

25 year old Anders Lee was a 15 goal scorer in 2015-2016 playing with Nielson and Bailey.

26 year old Anders Lee was a 34 goal scorer in 2016-2017 playing with Tavares and Bailey.

Okposo played pretty much exclusively with Tavares in Okposo's coming out year of 2013-2014 where he ended up being a point-per-game player that season. Away from Tavares he never had anywhere close to that success, and is now a ~55 point player in Buffalo despite having a solid center in O'Reilly on his line.

[Vinny01]

I wouldn't want to trade Monahan for Tavares simply because Monahan next year will be 24 with 5 years left on a contract at less than $6.5M AAV. Tavares will be 28 on a contract around $10M AAV until he is 36.

I wouldn't want the Flames to trade Bennett and Jankowski for Tavares either but at least 2 unknowns is a risk that could pay off for the Flames. If they move forward with Tavares, Monahan, Backlund as their top 3 centers and their top 4 that team is a cup threat no doubt.

[FireGilbert]

Yeah the comparison is laughable. Tavares is maybe the 6th best centre in the league while Monahan would be around 18th.

Now if you want to say Monahan at his salary is comparable value to Tavares at whatever his next contract is that would be a legitimate argument.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by FireGilbert

Yeah the comparison is laughable. Tavares is maybe the 6th best centre in the league while Monahan would be around 18th.

Now if you want to say Monahan at his salary is comparable value to Tavares at whatever his next contract is that would be a legitimate argument.

That's exactly what I've been saying.

[sureLoss]

HNIC:
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Edmonton has asked to go to China for the next exhibition games

resolution is expected one way or another for Detroit and Athanisou this week

Team Canada will extend an invitation to Iginla to play in the Karjala Cup (which will be a warm up tournament for the Olympics)

some rumblings that teams have asked Boston if they are willing to move Chara this season, but GM reiterated they are keeping Chara and plan on re-signing him

Fleury might miss some time after getting hit last night. Missed today's practice with maintenance but some concern.

Some teams wondering if Babcock's comments on Shea Weber is tampering. He was asked about Weber's slow start and said "If you don't want him we will take him"