Black Panther

[Finger Cookin]

Hoping to see this on Wednesday.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Sure about that? I’d say 90% of the score sounded like African tribal music. I was actually surprised how little it seemed hip hop inspired.

Yeah that’s what I mean. With Lamar supposedly all over it I figured it would have more of a mix.

I agree of course there was an African theme to the music, but I felt a lot of it was pretty generic Marvel, and didn’t stand out much like I thought it could.

[photon]

Thought it was great. Probably isn't my top Marvel movie but it's definitely in that Tier 1 group.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Really?

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I LOVED the sister. Probably my favorite character in the movie. Her quips were great and well written. The brother/sister dynamic was well performed in this movie.

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Some of the jokes were fine it just felt like there were too many, at times that didn't make sense. One example that really stood out was (I can't remember who it was) but the rhino licking one of the characters during the end battle was really unnecessary and out of place.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by codynw

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Some of the jokes were fine it just felt like there were too many, at times that didn't make sense. One example that really stood out was (I can't remember who it was) but the rhino licking one of the characters during the end battle was really unnecessary and out of place.

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It’s because it was her rhino. Her husband trained them. Just went to show how they shouldn’t have been fighting. They were family torn apart by killmonger.

[oldschoolcalgary]

interesting to see Marvel preparing for Phase 2 as all the stars of the original Marvel films, Iron Man, Captain American and Thor are finishing up their contracts.

great start with Black Panther... personally i liked Dr. Strange as well... we'll see about Capt Marvel

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by codynw

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Some of the jokes were fine it just felt like there were too many, at times that didn't make sense. One example that really stood out was (I can't remember who it was) but the rhino licking one of the characters during the end battle was really unnecessary and out of place.

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Was that even meant to be a joke? Felt like it was more of a plot device to explain the Rhino’s affection for her being the reason it stopped. Didn’t really see that as a haha that’s funny joke at all personally.

[undercoverbrother]

Saw it yesterday, it was ok.

I find that some of the action/fight scenes are too frenetic. There was also some scenes that could have used just a touch more lighting.

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

interesting to see Marvel preparing for Phase 2 as all the stars of the original Marvel films, Iron Man, Captain American and Thor are finishing up their contracts.

great start with Black Panther... personally i liked Dr. Strange as well... we'll see about Capt Marvel

It's speculated there will be a huge kill off of phase 2 stars coming up in infinity war for the contract reason. I don't really mind that at all since Marvel seems to be able to come up new compelling stories all the time.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

It's speculated there will be a huge kill off of phase 2 stars coming up in infinity war for the contract reason. I don't really mind that at all since Marvel seems to be able to come up new compelling stories all the time.

that would be a bold move on Marvel's part... though it would be pretty cool to see if they could pull it off...

i think Marvel is smart enough to realize "spiderman fatigue" can hit their fanbase if they just keep cranking out orgin stories with new casting every 5 years or so...

[Coach]

No reason why other characters can’t become Iron Man and Cap and Ant Man etc... it would be much smarter to kill Tony than recast Tony IMO.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Saw it yesterday, it was ok.

I find that some of the action/fight scenes are too frenetic. There was also some scenes that could have used just a touch more lighting.

That's putting it lightly.

The third act was visually chaotic and video game-like. Don't think my pulse raised at all cause I just didn't feel like I was watching anything real.

[Poe969]

What do you mean you didn't feel like you were watching something real??? How could you not feel like a movie about a guy in a country that doesn't exist who eats a plant that doesn't exist that gives him powers doesn't feel real?

Did you go into it thinking it was a biography or documentary? That might be why you didn't like it. It's a movie about a comic book character, it's not supposed to feel real. Movies like this are supposed to help you get away from reality and I to a fantasy world where they have like this can happen.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Poe969

What do you mean you didn't feel like you were watching something real??? How could you not feel like a movie about a guy in a country that doesn't exist who eats a plant that doesn't exist that gives him powers doesn't feel real?

Did you go into it thinking it was a biography or documentary? That might be why you didn't like it. It's a movie about a comic book character, it's not supposed to feel real. Movies like this are supposed to help you get away from reality and I to a fantasy world where they have like this can happen.

As I mentioned before, I really enjoyed the movie. However, I have to admit there were a lot of aspects that felt like I was watching a video game.

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The kinetic feedback suit, cars fully dismantling, etc. Even the climactic fight had a "only hit in a certain situation" boss fight feel to it.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Poe969

What do you mean you didn't feel like you were watching something real??? How could you not feel like a movie about a guy in a country that doesn't exist who eats a plant that doesn't exist that gives him powers doesn't feel real?

Did you go into it thinking it was a biography or documentary? That might be why you didn't like it. It's a movie about a comic book character, it's not supposed to feel real. Movies like this are supposed to help you get away from reality and I to a fantasy world where they have like this can happen.

I think what they mean is just that there wasn't a lot of feeling of jeopardy or stakes. I don't recall a lot of moments where I felt like "Man, BP almost bit it there."

I personally wasn't a fan of how often T'Challa's mask went on and off. It made it seem like the suits weren't tangible. And, to be frank, not a huge fan of Boseman's performance. The quiet subdued thing worked in a minor role in Civil War, but it felt very wooden for an entire film. Jordan was great though.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I think what they mean is just that there wasn't a lot of feeling of jeopardy or stakes. I don't recall a lot of moments where I felt like "Man, BP almost bit it there."

I personally wasn't a fan of how often T'Challa's mask went on and off. It made it seem like the suits weren't tangible. And, to be frank, not a huge fan of Boseman's performance. The quiet subdued thing worked in a minor role in Civil War, but it felt very wooden for an entire film. Jordan was great though.

I think they definitely crammed too much into the ending. The movie would have been a lot better if they'd focused on the conflict between T'Challa and Killmonger. Jordan was great, and his character had a very believable and sympathetic motivation. The side battles all seemed very forced to me.

The final confrontation should have been more psychological and had less CGI jumping around. I would have liked more of a debate between the T'Challa and Killmonger as to why each of their positions was correct. Nothing overly heavy but more substantial than what they offered.

I agree that Boseman could have really let loose emotionally. His journey back to the top could have been more interesting too.

Like I said before, I really liked the movie up until the third act, at which point it dragged and became less logical. Definitely something I'd recommend seeing in the theater but far from a masterpiece.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

A debate? A debate between the hero and villain to end a comic book movie?

Are you describing an SNL skit?

[Coach]

I would have like to see them fight in the jungle vs around the CG heavy city/mine. The coolest BP moment was in the jungle at the beginning. It would have made the setting more intimate. And made for a more original climax.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I would have like to see them fight in the jungle vs around the CG heavy city/mine. The coolest BP moment was in the jungle at the beginning. It would have made the setting more intimate. And made for a more original climax.

And they might not have to do the whole thing in front of a green screen!

Makes me think of The Disaster Artist with the alley backdrop beside the real alleyway. Why use the fake #### when you can just go film somewhere real and have it still work as a believable backdrop, but even better cause it's real and tangible. And as you say more intimate. And that's the kind of setting those two needed I think, especially with the dialogue exchange.

Pull a TFA and have trees getting cut up and falling. Practical can be fun!

Instead we get bungie cord jumping around a computerized mine train that's not even there. That environment does take away from the sense of stakes. You're just watching incoherent fast cut scenes of twirling and punching, waiting until someone gets stabbed so you finally figure out who lost.

I mean just refer to the two challenge scenes earlier in the film. Those were a couple pretty intimidating/intense fights, and there were wounds and weapons snapping, it definitely worked better.

Sucks when films try to go so big in their final acts that it detracts from everything it was doing right up until that point. Not everything has to be huge sets and CGI heavy, even in the super hero realm! Just my thoughts.

[Cheese]

It's a ####ing comic book folks. It's not supposed to be deeply thoughtful or close to reality. CGI was great, story was great, movie was fun.