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People in the Lower Mainland are against ANY kind of development. You should see the crowds that pour out to protest a 16 storey condo building.
I hear the Tarsands Campaign nonsense repeated verbatim by my family on the Island. It's clearly had an impact on how people perceive the risks around these projects.
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Old 08-09-2019, 03:55 PM   #4182
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I hear the Tarsands Campaign nonsense repeated verbatim by my family on the Island. It's clearly had an impact on how people perceive the risks around these projects.
I mean, the Island people do have a somewhat naive, but genuine opposition to these projects. A spill would basically destroy the coastal communities.

That said, most people have no idea how many tankers already pass through the Strait with zero incident.
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Old 08-09-2019, 05:03 PM   #4183
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I mean, the Island people do have a somewhat naive, but genuine opposition to these projects. A spill would basically destroy the coastal communities.

That said, most people have no idea how many tankers already pass through the Strait with zero incident.
That's a perfect example right there on how dishonest these groups are being. The failure rates on modern tankers is 5x10^-6 per vessel per year, at one vessel a day from Vancouver that means a huge spill is a one in 548 year event. A spill would be awful and damaging and the risk isn't zero, but it's practically zero. It's the same as there being a risk of your entire family dying in a fiery car wreck which would be awful but that's never stopped people from piling their family in the van to drive somewhere. But these groups always talk about WHEN a spill happens as if it's a sure thing deliberately and recklessly misrepresenting the actual risk level for these events. It's dishonest, and instead of trying to ban tankers from California or Texas in their own country they're doing it to us, that's what gets people upset.

No ones saying these groups can't be against oil or not have the right to solicit donations or say what they want. It's that they lie, they misrepresent, they've paid off FN bands for years to be against projects no matter what which makes good faith consultations impossible. They've played a large part in killing much needed pipelines here and they've been successful in the states too, out of all the oil pipelines built in the last ten years there's two are stalled, two that originate out of Canada. They've been so successful at shuttering proposed projects that I believe they're now trying their hand on existing lines, surprise surprise it's an Enbridge line in Michigan that's operated safely for almost 70 years but who cares, it's a Canadian export line. They do all of this while American oil production has skyrocketed and Texas wells vent and flare natural gas without any pushback. At best it's a myopic environmental movement that won't stop one molecule of carbon from polluting, at worst it's a targeted economic attack on our country.

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I mean, the Island people do have a somewhat naive, but genuine opposition to these projects. A spill would basically destroy the coastal communities.

That said, most people have no idea how many tankers already pass through the Strait with zero incident.
This right here shows your true knowledge on these sort of things.
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This right here shows your true knowledge on these sort of things.
Did you read what I said?
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