Ok, I just watched the episode "A world between worlds" Thanks to a friend of mine across the ocean.
Please don't read if you don't want to be spoiled. Episode summary
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Holy freaking arese crackers.
I won't go to deep.
The Temple is a nexus in time, it allows one to travel the past present and future. So when Ezra gets into the temple, he starts hearing voices from the past, Yoda, Luke, Leia, Anakin. He can also see events in time.
The reason why the Empire wants it is that the person that controls the temple controls the galaxy.
Ezra basically becomes a bit omniscient. He see's the fight between Ashoka and Vader and at the moment that the temple collapses on her, Ezra reaches through the portal and saves her. That's right Ashoka is alive. We also find out that the little bird that we saw in the episode that she died is either a guide for the Sister from Mortis or the Sister herself.
Outside of the Temple, Sabine is captured by an Imperial expert on the Force voiced by Malcolm McDowell. Who's again awesome. He appears to be an acolyte from the same order as the old man that served Vader in Rogue one. He tries to get Sabine to use her knowledge of art to open the temple.
In the temple. Ezra and Ashoka see another portal that shows Kanan's death. Ezra wants to save him, but Ashoka convinces him not to because if Ezra saves Kanan from death everyone all dies.
First of all this is tragically heartbreaking, but at the same time I drew a line between Ezra and Anakin and his fall. Anakin couldn't let the people that he loved go no matter what the cost and it caused his faill. Ezra found the strength to let Kanan die.
In an incredibly chilling scene, Ashoka tells Ezra that she can't join him on Lothal, and we hear a familiar voice that says "Perhaps I can" That's right Ian McDarmid is back as the Emperor and he's awesome, and he wants the temple. This is no force manifest, this is Palpatine and we see his power as he must consume Ashoka and Ezra to fully enter and take control of the Temple.
Ashoka tells Ezra that they must split up to escape the Emperor and she tells Ezra to come find her. She exits the temple and returns to Malichor and we see her limp into the Dark temple like she did at the end of Episode 2, so this has happened before.
Ezra escapes and stops the Emperor's plan as he can't enter the Temple. The Rebels then seal the temple and it collapses into the ground.
We hear Kanan's voice telling Ezra that the Force will be with him always.
The end scene shows Ezra seeing the Dume wolf who's job is now done, the Temple that he was guardian of is safe. Ezra realizes this and says that Kanan is gone forever, and he see's the white wolf in the distance and in a really emotional moment says goodbye to his master.
Great episode, I wasn't nuts about the time travel aspect, but it would make the Emperor incredibly powerful as he could see and manipulate events in the past present and future through the force.
2 episodes left, one half hour and one hour.
This season has nearly surprassed the best season of the Clone Wars
Ashoka is back, but I think she has to try to finish the job with Vader and it will lead to heart break.
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I thought it was a god few episodes. Sad to see Kanaan go but it had to happen and they had been telegraphing it for a while. It was really cool to see him get the Star Wars theme music for his heroic rescue. It will be interesting to see where things go from here. The rogue one tie in had me giddy.
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They had to have that loss to a team member, I was amazed at how well they handled it. Even the explosion and the fade to a different ending screen with ash falling and no credits music.
They managed to really capture how all of them would individually mourn and get over the loss.
Ezra having to face his own fear.
Hera just destroyed especially over her waiting to tell Kanan that she loved him.
Sabine wanting quick revenge.
Zeb wanting to support her. (That look when he walks out to greet the shuttle smiling at their return and his emotional change when he learns was still amazing and gut wrenching)
Chopper supporting Hera.
Really well done.
I still can't wait to see Thrawn returning to Lothal.
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Man just saw 12 and 13, you're right CC, they're knocking on the door of the best of Clone Wars. Clone Wars I thought was head and shoulders above Rebels, Rebels is good and Clone Wars take a while to really get going, but Clone Wars is incredible for a really good stretch. But Rebels is sure nailing it to end it off.
They really did the loss of Kanan justice.
Can't wait for the finale.
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Man just saw 12 and 13, you're right CC, they're knocking on the door of the best of Clone Wars. Clone Wars I thought was head and shoulders above Rebels, Rebels is good and Clone Wars take a while to really get going, but Clone Wars is incredible for a really good stretch. But Rebels is sure nailing it to end it off.
They really did the loss of Kanan justice.
Can't wait for the finale.
Clone Wars was excellent, don't get me wrong. If you a spiritual successor to Lucas in terms of the ability to tell a story in that universe, its not Abrams. Its Filoni.
I remember I didn't think much of the first season of Clone Wars, but it progressed so well and it did the one thing that it needed to do. It made you dread the fall of the Republic and the execution of Order 66. But at the same time you welcomed it, because it was almost like the Republic deserved to fall. As the seasons went on and got darker and darker right up until the point where Ashoka leaves the Jedi Order and you felt like it was a huge reason why Anakin fell.
Rebels started the same way, it was always so cheerful, the villains were kind of dumb and 2 dimensional, in the end the hero's always won.
In Star Trek II the big thing with Kirk that was bought up was that he never faced death.
In the Clone Wars we faced death but never to a main character(Ashoka was a primary character but was she a main character? I'm not so sure), it continued on Rebels, and I think that was by design and we got complacent. Kanan will find a way to survive this. Its Disney man, the hero's always win. So when the un thinkable happened it had this huge emotional punch, it was massive and overwhelming, and we were like Hera and Zeb and Ezra and Sabine in that for a few moments you had a near feeling of nausea and you almost mourned with the rest of the rebels.
It was amazingly well done.
Here's the other thing that's brilliant. Even when they had Vader, you never felt that the villains were a huge threat. Admiral Konstantine and Kallus were almost kind of key stone cop like, they always found a way to lose.
With Vader, he was amazing to watch, when he rose from the underneath the walkers, you were like woah. But you knew that he wasn't going to kill anyone.
Even with Thrawn in his first year, we were all like, DO SOMETHING AWESOME MAN!! But he was watching and learning.
Now we have a incredibly ruthless and urbane and nasty villain in Thrawn who's winning. We have Pryce who's a bit of a bumbler but pure witch. But you get the sense that the Rebellion isn't doing very well, and there's real danger here.
That's why the ending is working. Because you know, that there's a good chance that its not going to end happily or well.
I can't wait to see how it ends, however I'm not sure I want to see it end.
Because I don't think its going to be happy.
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You know, just watching Rebel Review, there are so many things in this series that we kind of take for granted.
I've focused on the change of illustration styles as the series progressed. Clone Wars did it but was subtle. It went from fairly cheerful to pretty well drab and low color in the end which was a great choice.
going back and watching the 2 d and 3d fusion without focusing on dialog is amazing, it looks really spectacular.
As well, it hit me and it was after they said it, that when Ezra first visited the temple, he didn't see any of the World between Worlds. On the second time, he really didn't see anything more then stars and he stood in one little circle.
On the third one he saw the paths and portals. A neat way to show that his awareness had grown so much.
I also loved the little footstep circles which shows to me that every step that you take along your path can change not only your destiny but everyone elses.
It just seems logical, that even though Ashoka basically tells Ezra where she's going and to come find her, that she won't be involved in her final battle. What's even neater is when they split up its a pretty poignant illustration that her path and Ezra's are completely separate. Also by her going back to the temple, it shows maybe that fate can't be changed, she went right back to where she ended up.
Maybe Ezra at the end, puts down his light saber and goes to find her.
I've been thinking about the "Last of your kind speech by Tarkin", maybe the Jedi all don't have to be dead, maybe they just stop being Jedi.
In the book Rise of the Dark Lord, Vader while still new (snicker) is angry and resentful and hateful of the Jedi.
He sums it up nicely that he blames Obi-Wan for Padme's death, and that his intention was to save Padme from Death and Obi-Wan from ignorance.
Even Palpatine wasn't too concerned about the Jedi, he was ok with them surviving, he'd bought down their order, and the survivor were running for their lives, and paying penance for generations of arrogance.
So in theory Ezra and Ashoka could survive in the end, just not as Jedi out fighting the good fight.
To me, i always thought a good ending to Clone Wars would have been a bit of a fast forward. Where we see Obi-Wan on Tatooine and he see's a news cast of Vader cutting down Rebels and realizes that he didn't kill Anakin and that the fate of the force was in darkness. (they did a great job of this in Dark Lord). Then it flashes to Yoda surveying his new home and he senses the dark side tree and goes in. Then we flash to Ashoka and she hears the announcement of the Jedi temple being destroyed and all of the Jedi including Anakin Skywalker being killed and she cries.
I'm almost of the thought, that the best way to end Rebels is to show the true power of the Empire in the final battle. There's no victory here, the first rebel victory comes in the events of Rogue One.
The family gathers one more time, and either they've suffered another loss (Zeb or Sabine), or the Rebellion is in a hopeless situation, and the will to fight is burned out of them.
Sabine announces that she wants to go home to what's left of her Clan.
Zeb wants to join his people.
Ezra wants to fulfill his promise to Ashoka
Chop and Hera want to fight.
And then we flash forward.
Hera and Zeb on the ghost as the second death star explodes and she touches a picture of Kanan and smiles.
Zeb celebrating
Sabine and her clan getting ready for a final battle against the renmants of the Empire.
Ashoka and Ezra in the temple meditating and a smile comes across Ezra's face as he hears his master again.
Anyways.
Nice to see one confirmation if you look at the armor that Rex is wearing that he is at Edor in ROTJ
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Wow final three episodes this Monday?? Crazy. I'm excited and sad at the same time.
This series has done such a good job of skirting the OT/R1 canon, linking into Clone Wars and creating its own little niche in the SWU that it will be hard to replace.
The scene with Ahsoka and Vader fighting is still one of my favourite in SW history, any platform.
I want some Ahsoka closure!!
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Remember I think we're a week behind here. So next week will be the 2 episodes before the finale.
But the finale will probably go up on the web on Monday.
I loved the Vader fight, especially when Ashoka exposed Anakin's face, and then he called her name, and she told him she wouldn't leave him this time. Its clear that she feels incredibly responsible for his fall.
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Ahh good point, ok so 5 episodes total that makes more sense.
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It still feels like the end for two of the major episodes.
The Loth Wolf wasn't as much Kanan as an extension of his will. with the Temple secured and the Tie Defender factory off line, Kanan's mission is done now. It felt like the end of him at the end of the episode.
When Ezra and Ashoka separated and Ezra told her to come find him, and she walked into the temple on Malichor, it very much felt like the end for her character as well. Ezra didn't really change her fate, as she returned to where she ended up. She was there to give him one last lesson on letting go.
I thought that they really nicely hinted at a different fate for Ezra in the temple when he realized that he could use the World between World to control fate, and even "Save the one you love". This was clearly made to end any notion of Ezra falling, lets face it, if Anakin had figured out how to use the Temple, Padme wouldn't be dead.
I wonder what the cost of saving her would be.
Lets say that Padme didn't die.
Would Vader have beaten Kenobi? Its possible.
Would Padme have stayed with Vader and tried to save him or would she have fled?
If Vader had beaten Kenobi and not been destroyed. How long would it have taken for his hunger for power to compel him to kill Sheev?
What would a true chosen one in control of his power been like?
Also if Palpatine had found a way to take the Temple, what would have he wanted to change?
I mean up until that point, everything had worked out perfectly, so does he view the future. Does he sit back and watch past events like a best of Sheev show? does he reach into the past for a diet coke?
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I guess I just never got Clone Wars, sorry this is speaking to photon's point above. I'm on season 4 in that series and I have STRUGGLED to get here. I watch it sporadically mostly just trying to tough it out because everyone says the last few seasons are the best.
I feel like everything past season 1 in Rebels has far out weighed anything I have seen so far in Clone Wars. But then again I've always found the prequel's political angles very boring. I enjoy the Rebel Alliance aspect in the OT and I like watching the various heads interact. But for whatever reason anything Senate or Jedi Council related in the prequel material just puts me to sleep.
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I guess I just never got Clone Wars, sorry this is speaking to photon's point above. I'm on season 4 in that series and I have STRUGGLED to get here. I watch it sporadically mostly just trying to tough it out because everyone says the last few seasons are the best.
I feel like everything past season 1 in Rebels has far out weighed anything I have seen so far in Clone Wars. But then again I've always found the prequel's political angles very boring. I enjoy the Rebel Alliance aspect in the OT and I like watching the various heads interact. But for whatever reason anything Senate or Jedi Council related in the prequel material just puts me to sleep.
I thought the second half of season 4 from the Umbari storyline and on was really strong.
General Krell was one of the darkest characters on the show. Especially this.
Spoiler!
After setting up a ambush between Clone Troopers that lead to countless deaths. Krell was captured and bragged about it and it came down to why the Jedi were going to fail and the Clones would do it
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Captain Rex:
Why General? Why kill your own men? Pong Krell:
(chuckles) Because I can. Because you fell for it. Because you're inferior. Captain Rex:
But you're a Jedi. How could you? Pong Krell:
A Jedi? (laughs) I am no longer naive enough to be a Jedi. A new power is rising. I've foreseen it. The Jedi are going to lose this war and the Republic will be ripped apart from the inside. In its place is going to rise a New Order and I will rule as part of it. Captain Rex:
You're a Separatist. Pong Krell:
I serve no one's side, only my own. And soon my master... Captain Rex:
You're an agent of Dooku. Pong Krell:
Not yet, but when I get out of here I will be. After I succeeded in driving the Republic from Umbara, the Count will reward my actions and make me his new apprentice. Dogma:
How could you do this?! You had my trust, my loyalty, I've followed all of your orders, and you made me kill my brothers!! Pong Krell:
(laughs) That's because you were the biggest fool of them all Dogma. I counted on blind loyalty like yours to make my plan succeed! (laughs) Captain Rex:
That will never happen. You're a traitor, General, and you will be dealt with as one. Pong Krell:
You never learn Captain. The Umbarans are going to retake this place, and when they do I will be free.
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