Recommend (or don't) a movie thread v2

[peter12]

I watched Jojo Rabbit the other night and I really liked it. It made me want to re-read Ian Kershaw's book "The End," which is an investigation into how/why the Germand held off until the total destruction of their country.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by peter12

I watched Jojo Rabbit the other night and I really liked it. It made me want to re-read Ian Kershaw's book "The End," which is an investigation into how/why the Germand held off until the total destruction of their country.

Funny, I was just wondering to myself wether or not Jojo Rabbit qualified as a historical film, in my fancy arbitrary post -modern esque category that I made up this morning. In conclusion, I think that it is one of the best WWII movies made in recent memory in terms of humanising what it is like to live in a country at war in the 1940s. Infact it is probably a better War History movie then Saving Private Ryan, Fury and Flags of our Father combined.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Funny, I was just wondering to myself wether or not Jojo Rabbit qualified as a historical film, in my fancy arbitrary post -modern esque category that I made up this morning. In conclusion, I think that it is one of the best WWII movies made in recent memory in terms of humanising what it is like to live in a country at war in the 1940s. Infact it is probably a better War History movie then Saving Private Ryan, Fury and Flags of our Father combined.

I think it is good enough. There was some fantastical elements such as the battle scenes/uniforms, but I was surprised to see that all of the weapons used were somewhat period accurate.

The timeline was a bit goofy. It is supposed to be in 1945 (Stauffenberg's July 20th plot is mentioned by the Hitler character), so it would be taking place in the final months of the war from January to April 1945, basically after the Ardennes Offensive when the Allies had crossed the Rhine and were moving into Germany proper. Yet, the seasons are all messed up, like the grass is green early on the film when it should be winter, and then it snows near the end of the film when it should be spring!

Anyway, it isn't supposed to be a War History movie, but as you said, an interesting, somewhat fantastical, look at what it may have been like for a little boy who had been indoctrinated his entire life by a totalitarian regime to actually come to grips with a real moral decision and come out on the other side making the right choice - mainly due to the compassionate and moral efforts of his mother, but also due to his own sweet and innocent nature.

[calgarybornnraised]

So I’ve been waiting to watch “Jojo Rabbit”. Great Movie.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by calgarybornnraised

So I’ve been waiting to watch “Jojo Rabbit”. Great Movie.

We watched it on the weekend and I loved it. Overall just a surreal experience. Part Comedy, part drama, part tragedy....so much unexpected stuff going on, excellent performances all around. It was really, really good.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Yamer

And here's really the root of what bothers me most on this topic. "I hate it and if you don't you're a dope and a moron". You're entitled to like or not like something, but I don't think this expression is necessary. It's just stomping on another person's joy through a veil of superiority.

To me it really has nothing to do with affect on cinema or the downfall of media consumption. It's simply "I don't like it and its existence irritates me". That argument is valid, and if it was expressed honestly I don't think it would bug me so much, aside from its redundancy.

What do you mean by "That argument is valid, and if it was expressed honestly I don't think it would bug me..."? Do you think I exaggerated that opinion? I honestly believe people who Like Bad Boys for Life are dopes of the highest order. Nobody I know and respect would like that movie.

What is this thread for, in your opinion? I mean, it kind of says it right there in the title: Recommend (or don't) a movie thread. I'm advising people to avoid this movie because it's awful. If you are a dope or a moron, however, maybe you'll love it. IDK

Judging movies is part of going to a movie FFS. Like, I don't think I've ever been to a movie with someone where we didn't talk about whether or not we liked it when we left. If we didn't like it, we'll discuss why. Bad Boys for Life was so bad that I came out with a very strong opinion of the movie and a very strong opinion about the type of person that would enjoy it.

Originally Posted by Rando

It was just an added note. The main point was that you could go to the theatre every weekend and not see a superhero movie. You'd probably see a dud or two, a genre that wasn't you're favourite but they're easy to avoid.

You went to see to see the third movie of a franchise staring two actors you hate. You're a glutton for punishment!

I like hitting a movie every week and have seen everything else. Believe me, this was at the bottom of my list. I was hoping it would entertain me, but it was so bad it took me out of the experience. I can enjoy most movies because I just find the time in the theater so chill. This one, however, had me squirming at its awfulness.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Sliver

What do you mean by "That argument is valid, and if it was expressed honestly I don't think it would bug me..."? Do you think I exaggerated that opinion? I honestly believe people who Like Bad Boys for Life are dopes of the highest order. Nobody I know and respect would like that movie.

I was talking about openly saying that studios should stop making X genre movies because of Y and Z, when Y and Z really aren't the issue. The issue, to me, is that they simply don't like that genre for their own reasons, not because it is, for instance, leading to the downfall of cinema. I don't see evidence of that when it comes to superhero movies.

Although I am in the camp wanting to see something less traditional and cookie cutter from these films, such as what Joker offered.

What is this thread for, in your opinion? I mean, it kind of says it right there in the title: Recommend (or don't) a movie thread. I'm advising people to avoid this movie because it's awful. If you are a dope or a moron, however, maybe you'll love it. IDK

Judging movies is part of going to a movie FFS. Like, I don't think I've ever been to a movie with someone where we didn't talk about whether or not we liked it when we left. If we didn't like it, we'll discuss why. Bad Boys for Life was so bad that I came out with a very strong opinion of the movie and a very strong opinion about the type of person that would enjoy it.

I'll try to parse it down again.

You can like, love, dislike, and/or hate any piece of art and feel free to express that opinion, in this thread or anywhere for that matter (but you certainly don't require my permission for that, of course).

What I don't think is necessary - for example - is calling someone a dope or moron because they disagree. I don't understand how that's constructive in your film recommendations, other than validating your self-superiority and insulting people over something that is, by nature, subjective.

It's an odd way to get people to respect an opinion. In fact, I've found it's had the opposite affect, even though I am personally entirely indifferent to that franchise.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Yamer

I was talking about openly saying that studios should stop making X genre movies because of Y and Z, when Y and Z really aren't the issue. The issue, to me, is that they simply don't like that genre for their own reasons, not because it is, for instance, leading to the downfall of cinema. I don't see evidence of that when it comes to superhero movies.

Although I am in the camp wanting to see something less traditional and cookie cutter from these films, such as what Joker offered.

I'll try to parse it down again.

You can like, love, dislike, and/or hate any piece of art and feel free to express that opinion, in this thread or anywhere for that matter (but you certainly don't require my permission for that, of course).

What I don't think is necessary - for example - is calling someone a dope or moron because they disagree. I don't understand how that's constructive in your film recommendations, other than validating your self-superiority and insulting people over something that is, by nature, subjective.

It's an odd way to get people to respect an opinion. In fact, I've found it's had the opposite affect, even though I am personally entirely indifferent to that franchise.

lol at the bolded.

If I had to listen to you cackle at horrible jokes and clap at bad car chases, you can rest assured I'll come on the Internet to complain about you when the movie is over. I'm not calling someone a dope or a moron because they disagree. I'm calling someone a dope and a moron because I think that's what they are and I want to call them out for it. If you don't like using insulting language, then don't. Personally, I find people that are "too nice" to be bland and boring.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Sliver

lol at the bolded.

If I had to listen to you cackle at horrible jokes and clap at bad car chases, you can rest assured I'll come on the Internet to complain about you when the movie is over. I'm not calling someone a dope or a moron because they disagree. I'm calling someone a dope and a moron because I think that's what they are and I want to call them out for it. If you don't like using insulting language, then don't. Personally, I find people that are "too nice" to be bland and boring.

Yes, you are. However, I'm satisfied I've expressed my point. This seems like it will be an inevitable circle and I don't feel it necessary to derail the thread any further.

[Matata]

Did you like Bad Boys 2?

[icecube]

I agree with Sliver. If you hate something that much then feel free to slag others for enjoying it. Pirates of the Caribbean 2 and Oceans Twelve were so bad that I actually wish harm on anyone who likes those movies. I hope evil things happen to the type of person who would support a movie that bad.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Matata

Did you like Bad Boys 2?

That's like asking; Do you like steaming piles of trash?

[Matata]

People who don't like Bad Boys 2 are insufferable twats who don't let themselves enjoy things because they're desperately trying to convince themselves they are smarter than they actually are. (am I doing this right?)

[OutOfTheCube]

I mean this is the guy who lists “The Princess Switch” as one of his favourite movies. He comes from a dubious place to call someone a moron for liking something.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by icecube

I agree with Sliver. If you hate something that much then feel free to slag others for enjoying it. Pirates of the Caribbean 2 and Oceans Twelve were so bad that I actually wish harm on anyone who likes those movies. I hope evil things happen to the type of person who would support a movie that bad.

The first Pirates of the Caribbean was actually not terrible though.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Matata

People who don't like Bad Boys 2 are insufferable twats who don't let themselves enjoy things because they're desperately trying to convince themselves they are smarter than they actually are. (am I doing this right?)

I think calling anyone a moron for their lack of shared taste in garbage is fair game. I have absolutely awful taste in films for someone of my so-called intellectual pretensions.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Yes, you are. However, I'm satisfied I've expressed my point. This seems like it will be an inevitable circle and I don't feel it necessary to derail the thread any further.

I'll share the tap out with you. I was done on that, too.

[FireGilbert]

Originally Posted by icecube

I agree with Sliver. If you hate something that much then feel free to slag others for enjoying it. Pirates of the Caribbean 2 and Oceans Twelve were so bad that I actually wish harm on anyone who likes those movies. I hope evil things happen to the type of person who would support a movie that bad.

Ocean's Twelve is legitimately horrible. Julia Roberts pretending to be Julia Roberts might be the single laziest written scene in cinema history.

I thought Pirates 2 was okay. It's 3, 4 and 5 that are the giant turds.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Matata

People who don't like Bad Boys 2 are insufferable twats who don't let themselves enjoy things because they're desperately trying to convince themselves they are smarter than they actually are. (am I doing this right?)

Ha ha ha what's going on in this thread?

[jammies]

Coincidentally, I tried watching Bad Boys II last weekend. I couldn't make it to the end - running over dead people *could* be funny, but only if the film had already established a dark tone. I wouldn't say you'd have to be a moron to like it, but the demographic likely skews that way.