Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community
Old 02-12-2016, 08:42 PM   #61
Enoch Root
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: May 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79 View Post
What? Thats still considered one of the absolute WORST trades in Flames history. You kind of proved my point. Hull in the fold could've gotten you two or three more cups on top of that one. Wamsley was crap. Ramage was a good add though.
on the internet.

But I doubt Cliff Fletcher or the Flames regret it
Enoch Root is offline  
Old 02-12-2016, 08:47 PM   #62
Parallex
I believe in the Jays.
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire View Post
That missed year due to injury really hurt his development. Nichushkin is having some major struggles right now.

I actually think Russell and Hudler is all it would take though. The Stars are going for a Cup.
Yeah, His counting stats havn't improved from his rookie year and his possession stats aren't anything to write home about. Plus his ELC is done now and I have no idea what he'll want on his 2nd contract.

It's tempting because of the obvious upside but not a slam dunk trade IMO.
Parallex is offline  
Old 02-12-2016, 08:54 PM   #63
dammage79
Franchise Player
 
dammage79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Stars look like they might be able to sneak that trade as proposed in with like tens of thousands of dollars in cap remaining.

Again, if the Stars want to deal Nich for a Russell and Hudler package, I'd pull that trigger all the day long. I'm not putting too much stock in this down year.

Even if you ponied up 4m a season to Nich for a some term it'll be a major steal.
__________________
"Everybody's so desperate to look smart that nobody is having fun anymore" -Jackie Redmond
dammage79 is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to dammage79 For This Useful Post:
Old 02-12-2016, 08:55 PM   #64
GranteedEV
Franchise Player
 
GranteedEV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root View Post
The Stars have the horses to win now. Adding a top 6 winger (that they need) and a top 4 defenseman (that they desperately need)
Oduya, Demers, Klingberg, and Goligoski are all >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kris Russell
GranteedEV is offline  
Old 02-12-2016, 09:02 PM   #65
JiriHrdina
I believe in the Pony Power
 
JiriHrdina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root View Post
on the internet.

But I doubt Cliff Fletcher or the Flames regret it
Yeah the Flames don't win the cup without Ramage. Whether or not they would have one or more with Hull is an unknown. But you can't second guess that deal
JiriHrdina is offline  
The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to JiriHrdina For This Useful Post:
Old 02-12-2016, 09:12 PM   #66
1qqaaz
Franchise Player
 
1qqaaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
Exp:
Default

Knowing the Flames management from the early 90's, I think we would have just lost Hull for next to nothing. Just like most of the other parts of that cup winning team.
1qqaaz is offline  
Old 02-12-2016, 09:43 PM   #67
The Original FFIV
First Line Centre
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Exp:
Default

Anything to this? From Millions Twitter.

Granlund late scratch for #Flames. Bollig in vs #Coyotes
The Original FFIV is offline  
Old 02-12-2016, 09:47 PM   #68
sureLoss
Some kinda newsbreaker!
 
sureLoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Original FFIV View Post
Anything to this? From Millions Twitter.

Granlund late scratch for #Flames. Bollig in vs #Coyotes
Considering Granlund was being scratched before the Monahan/Gaudreau/Bouma disciplinary action, probably not.
sureLoss is offline  
Old 02-12-2016, 10:19 PM   #69
Dion
Not a casual user
 
Dion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79 View Post
What? Thats still considered one of the absolute WORST trades in Flames history. You kind of proved my point. Hull in the fold could've gotten you two or three more cups on top of that one. Wamsley was crap. Ramage was a good add though.
Why Cliff Fletcher traded Hull.....

Quote:
“Trading Hull … we knew what we were doing when we did it. I think,” laughs Fletcher. “I said then, when we made the deal, that he’d score 150 goals the next three years. Turns out, he got 160.

“But we got Wamsley, who was very important to the group and we got Ramage and if you remember back Gary Suter got hurt in the first round and Ramage had a helluva playoff. At the time we had three right wingers who had scored 50 goals — Lanny, Hakan Loob and Joey Mullen. So I felt I could do it.

“As I said, it was a process.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/...218/story.html#
__________________
Dion is offline  
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Dion For This Useful Post:
Old 02-12-2016, 10:25 PM   #70
DropIt
Franchise Player
 
DropIt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Red Deer, AB
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79 View Post
What? Thats still considered one of the absolute WORST trades in Flames history. You kind of proved my point. Hull in the fold could've gotten you two or three more cups on top of that one. Wamsley was crap. Ramage was a good add though.
It really isnt. At all
DropIt is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to DropIt For This Useful Post:
Old 02-12-2016, 10:35 PM   #71
Dion
Not a casual user
 
Dion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DropIt View Post
It really isnt. At all
Exactly! The trade helped to get us to win the Cup in 89. Anytime you can make a trade that improves your chances of winning a Cup you make it. Besides Fletcher was no dummy and had a reputation of making shrewd trades that only made the Flames a better hockey club. McDonald, Gilmour, McCrimmon, Mullen etc are great examples.
__________________
Dion is offline  
Old 02-12-2016, 10:45 PM   #72
midniteowl
Franchise Player
 
midniteowl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79 View Post
What? Thats still considered one of the absolute WORST trades in Flames history. You kind of proved my point. Hull in the fold could've gotten you two or three more cups on top of that one. Wamsley was crap. Ramage was a good add though.
One of the worst trade in Flames history? Really? Without the trade, the Flames might not win their first cup, let alone 2 or 3 more. The could've, should've, would've scenario doesn't hold, the line up the Flames had at that time was good enough go win 1 or 2 more, but they didn't. Was it because they lack scoring? Or their defense not up to par. Hull had never known for his defensive play. What make you think that having Hull will make a difference?

Last edited by midniteowl; 02-12-2016 at 10:47 PM.
midniteowl is offline  
Old 02-12-2016, 10:48 PM   #73
H2SO4(aq)
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Exp:
Default

Obviously no trade comes with a guarantee. But ill take a cup over any player, any HOF career, and point total. I dont care if we win with a gang of pluggers or perennial MVP candidates. The Flames have one cup, so for that reason alone, I consider any move leading up to that moment a success. Hell if in 04 we had traded iginla away for lynn loyns....... okay im pushing my luck
H2SO4(aq) is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to H2SO4(aq) For This Useful Post:
Old 02-13-2016, 06:18 AM   #74
Lanny_McDonald
Franchise Player
 
Lanny_McDonald's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Exp:
Default

I'm beginning to get the feeling this could be a pretty quiet deadline for the Flames.
Lanny_McDonald is offline  
Old 02-13-2016, 07:10 AM   #75
Dr. Doom
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Dr. Doom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Exp:
Default

If I'm Treliving I'm moving on Hutchinson out of Winnipeg ASAP:

Quote:
Ken Wiebe ‏@WiebeSunSports

Ondrej Pavelec will be activated off IR by #NHLJets today and Connor Hellebuyck will be assigned to #AHL for the short term


With this move, the 22-year-old netminder is a victim of the CBA. Despite the fact that Hellebuyck has been far and away the best Jets goaltender this season, he doesn't require waivers to be sent down, unlike his fellow goaltenders Michael Hutchinson and the recently activated Ondrej Pavelec (knee). Having said that, head coach Paul Maurice gave the impression that Hellebuyck's time in the minors would be brief.
Sounds like the only reason they had to send down Hellebuyck was to protect Hutch from waivers in hopes of an actual return for him.

If I'm Treliving I'm making this deal now. Can't be too expensive to acquire and he's of the right age and aside from this season he's be a solid goalie of right age who might surprise with starter duties. At worst he's a solid backup next season:

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=96549

Dr. Doom is offline  
The Following 11 Users Say Thank You to Dr. Doom For This Useful Post:
Old 02-13-2016, 09:09 AM   #76
sureLoss
Some kinda newsbreaker!
 
sureLoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
Exp:
Default

THW predicts the trade deadline:

http://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-trad...tential-deals/

For the Flames:

Hudler to Florida for Pirri and Olsen
Russell to St. Louis for Rattie
Hiller, Jones, Shore for Chartier and 5th
sureLoss is offline  
The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to sureLoss For This Useful Post:
Old 02-13-2016, 09:13 AM   #77
Erick Estrada
Franchise Player
 
Erick Estrada's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss View Post
THW predicts the trade deadline:

http://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-trad...tential-deals/

For the Flames:

Hudler to Florida for Pirri and Olsen
Russell to St. Louis for Rattie
Hiller, Jones, Shore for Chartier and 5th
Sign me up.
Erick Estrada is offline  
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Erick Estrada For This Useful Post:
Old 02-13-2016, 09:18 AM   #78
Zulu29
Franchise Player
 
Zulu29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss View Post
THW predicts the trade deadline:

http://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-trad...tential-deals/

For the Flames:

Hudler to Florida for Pirri and Olsen
Russell to St. Louis for Rattie
Hiller, Jones, Shore for Chartier and 5th
If any of those trades happened I'd be ecstatic.
Zulu29 is offline  
Old 02-13-2016, 09:28 AM   #79
Roof-Daddy
Franchise Player
 
Roof-Daddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss View Post
THW predicts the trade deadline:

http://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-trad...tential-deals/

For the Flames:

Hudler to Florida for Pirri and Olsen
Russell to St. Louis for Rattie
Hiller, Jones, Shore for Chartier and 5th
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada View Post
Sign me up.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zulu29 View Post
If any of those trades happened I'd be ecstatic.
Sure seems like a whole lot of "meh" to me.

I'd rather the Flames trade for draft picks myself, because we already have plenty of underwhelming AHL/NHL tweeners and fair to middling NHL depth players.
Roof-Daddy is offline  
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to Roof-Daddy For This Useful Post:
Old 02-13-2016, 09:40 AM   #80
Zulu29
Franchise Player
 
Zulu29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy View Post
Sure seems like a whole lot of "meh" to me.

I'd rather the Flames trade for draft picks myself, because we already have plenty of underwhelming AHL/NHL tweeners and fair to middling NHL depth players.
We have zero right wing depth, it needs to be addressed.
Zulu29 is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:24 AM.

Calgary Flames
2023-24




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021