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Old 07-15-2022, 04:53 PM   #2661
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I literally said “F@ck you” out loud at least 5 times while watching this disingenuous tripe. Yes, I’m still salty.
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Old 07-15-2022, 04:53 PM   #2662
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I actually disagree.

To me this shows it was actually a last minute decision.

If he would have had a bunch of canned PR lined up about how much he loved Calgary and is so sad to leave lined up to go out on the 12th and 13th then that just would have proven to me that the decision was made long ago.

The fact he didn’t have any of that ready to go makes me thing that it wasn’t ready because he wasn’t sure he’d actually be leaving.
That's fine. But he should be on 960 talking to Steinberg now instead of other shows. We're the local station that watched and promoted him for 11 years.
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Old 07-15-2022, 04:55 PM   #2663
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Wow after watching that interview this is now the saltiest i've been since the news broke he signed in Columbus. There is just so much bull#### in this interview it's actually shocking. He can't even convince himself what he's saying is true.


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Tim: Have you talked to your former team mates since you signed this deal?
Johnny: Yeah I have! *Talks only about Sean Monahan*
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That's fine. But he should be on 960 talking to Steinberg now instead of other shows. We're the local station that watched and promoted him for 11 years.
Flames organization controls a lot of the discussion on Sportsnet 960.

I’ve actually noticed a lot more Stampeders talk than the usual Flames talk on the station since Tuesday.

My guess is the Flames org might not really want him talking on 960 right now, they are controlling the narrative on their home station.

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Old 07-15-2022, 04:57 PM   #2666
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Hope boring Sean even told him he's a dumb dumb poophead for going to Columbus.
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Old 07-15-2022, 04:57 PM   #2667
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The right move if that was the only destination would have been to sign for like 1 x $6M.

Then on Jan 1 Philly could actually sign him to an 8 year deal as their own UFA and he could have gotten like 8 x $9.5M with JVRs money off the books.

If I was Fletcher that’s what I would have pitched.
Dont think thats how it works. Once that initial UFA opportunity is used then that 8th year is gone like a fart in the wind.

But they could do a 1 year then a 7. But....what if he gets hurt? What if he phones it in?
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Old 07-15-2022, 04:59 PM   #2668
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I literally said “F@ck you” out loud at least 5 times while watching this disingenuous tripe. Yes, I’m still salty.
You guys have been broken up with before, right?

Take solace in the fact that he's giving all this *sexy strut* up for a dud hockey club.

It's his loss.

Now let's OS Laine and take away his sniper.

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Dont think thats how it works. Once that initial UFA opportunity is used then that 8th year is gone like a fart in the wind.

But they could do a 1 year then a 7. But....what if he gets hurt? What if he phones it in?
He could do it but it would have had to have been after the 2022-2023 trade deadline

And yeah a big risk on his part but obviously would have needed to be a gentleman’s agreement with Philly GM and ownership.

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Already posted.... This thread's moving too fast....
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Old 07-15-2022, 05:11 PM   #2671
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Now let's OS Laine and take away his sniper.
What would you offer though? 8.4x5 years?
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Old 07-15-2022, 05:15 PM   #2672
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My conclusion at this time

1) Johnny has no love for the team. Doesn’t want to be part of it anymore.
Or
2)Wife wears the pants in the house. Treliving was negotiating with the wrong person
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What would you offer though? 8.4x5 years?
The bare minimum of what the BJs can't match after signing Gaudreau.

Whatever that is.

We can offload Lucic. This is a more worthy albatross because tasty revenge.
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Old 07-15-2022, 05:16 PM   #2674
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Not sure if posted yet, or even real.

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Three problems with offer sheeting Laine:

1) Big contract and long term means big risk.
2) This team is already reeling from years and years of trading away futures. Is it really willing to send away a bunch more, especially with next year's draft being the deepest in years?
3) A top line of Laine-Lindholm-Tkachuk would have 3 shooters on it and no set-up man.
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That mic drop was from outer space.
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Old 07-15-2022, 05:19 PM   #2677
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I'm honestly more sad seeing Flames fans turning on him so quickly than him leaving, and sad that fans are probably going to boo him when he comes back. It just feels like there is so much irrational hate right now.

It doesn't matter what he says or what he does, people aren't going accept it. They'll demand he acknowledges / thanks the fans, but when he does, they'll take it as insincere. Johnny's in a no win situation at this point.
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Old 07-15-2022, 05:19 PM   #2678
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I’m not sure about the Murray rumour because don’t all conversations go through the Agent generally?

Anyway, Johnny will be on Tim and Friends in a few minutes. Undoubtedly it will be a softball fluff piece but something to hopefully read into after his interview.
I imagine most communication goes through the agent, but I actually think it would be weird if there weren't a few instances where everyone is on the same call. At least the initial pitch we heard about, and at least once more along the way if/when things get close.


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Probably not much different than this one.
Really? 8x8 or 8x8.5 were more likely the range we've heard about.

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Dont think thats how it works. Once that initial UFA opportunity is used then that 8th year is gone like a fart in the wind.

But they could do a 1 year then a 7. But....what if he gets hurt? What if he phones it in?
He could still sign for 8, but not until the day after the TDL. On Jan. 1 he could sign for 7.
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Really? 8x8 or 8x8.5 were more likely the range we've heard about.
You mean....essentially the same as he's making now. On this contract. That he signed on Wednesday.

Yeah. Not much different than this one.
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Old 07-15-2022, 05:24 PM   #2680
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I'm honestly more sad seeing Flames fans turning on him so quickly than him leaving, and sad that fans are probably going to boo him when he comes back. It just feels like there is so much irrational hate right now.

It doesn't matter what he says or what he does, people aren't going accept it. They'll demand he acknowledges / thanks the fans, but when he does, they'll take it as insincere. Johnny's in a no win situation at this point.
His interview with Tim definitely softened things for me and brought the human element back from and center, and I thought he said some pretty genuine and warm things about the people of Calgary.

I was surprised to see people here taking it the opposite and still now saying “#### you” to the screen watching it. It’s pretty sad.

I’ll appreciate however he ends up saying his thank yous and goodbye to Calgary.
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