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Old 09-11-2019, 02:47 PM   #41
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My initial thoughts on this:

- Need to free space now to accommodate about-to-be-official Tkaclutch signing
- No acceptable deals involving Frolik
- Acceptable deal involving Brodie
- Sign stone to allow Andersson to replace Brodie on the top pairing
This has no impact on cap space unless you for some reason think they were going to go with only 6 d-men before or are going to go with 8 d-men now. Signing Stone ($700k) means that Davidson ($700k) or Yelesin ($925k) will be in the AHL to start the year instead of the NHL
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:47 PM   #42
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Hopefully the first of three signings to be announced today.
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:48 PM   #43
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Now just waiting for Kent Wilson to tweet about his Brent Kulak article and why we should have kept him... again.
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$1,166,000 to not play for us and $700,000 to play for us.

Please leave/stay. I mean, please go away/come here. What I’m trying to say is why are you still here/where are you?
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:48 PM   #45
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My initial thoughts on this:

- Need to free space now to accommodate about-to-be-official Tkaclutch signing
- No acceptable deals involving Frolik
- Acceptable deal involving Brodie
- Sign stone to allow Andersson to replace Brodie on the top pairing
Sign MacDonald after an impressive (hopefully) training camp.
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:48 PM   #46
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I like this move. Stone is a serviceable NHL d-man and who better to know about him than the team that bought him out a few months back.
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:49 PM   #47
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BT is far too conservative with his defencemen to anoint Andersson a lock for the first pairing and assume Stone can play in the third pairing after essentially not even making the lineup last year before the clot. He cares too much about defensive depth, and has held his ground on all other RFAs so far, I can't imagine him removing a top pairing defenceman and replacing him in the lineup with Stone just because of Tkachuk's demands.

If Brodie does get moved, I still see another defencemen being added.
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:50 PM   #48
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BT is far too conservative with his defencemen to anoint Andersson a lock for the first pairing and assume Stone can play in the third pairing after essentially not even making the lineup last year before the clot. He cares too much about defensive depth, and has held his ground on all other RFAs so far, I can't imagine him removing a top pairing defenceman and replacing him in the lineup with Stone just because of Tkachuk's demands.

If Brodie does get moved, I still see another defencemen being added.
“Tkachuk’s demands.”
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:53 PM   #49
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Buyout the whole team and re-sign them all for 7x$700k.

Give Marner and Point 13 million.

Win the cup.
No kidding...how can this be allowed?
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Stone’s reaction:

Treliving’s reply:
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:58 PM   #51
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This has no impact on cap space unless you for some reason think they were going to go with only 6 d-men before or are going to go with 8 d-men now. Signing Stone ($700k) means that Davidson ($700k) or Yelesin ($925k) will be in the AHL to start the year instead of the NHL
Moving out a $4M contract has no impact on cap space?
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:59 PM   #52
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Stone and Treliving earlier today...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b7UXig7_-Rg
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Moving out a $4M contract has no impact on cap space?
You think Brodie would be traded for nothing?
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No kidding...how can this be allowed?
Well most players would not re-sign for the league minimum, so this strategy would not really work. Plus I am sure they got the NHL's blessing before doing the deal.
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LMAO really? I love it!
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1171890946478227456


Stone's agent is Tkachuk's uncle/agent Craig Oster: https://puckpedia.com/player/michael-stone
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Personally this move angers me. The next signings should have been Tkachuk or Mangiapane. Camp starts tomorrow as well so I would rather wait to see how guys like Davidson or maybe some other guys in the system do during camp before adding Stone.

I didn't like re-signing of Stone when we acquired Hamonic and I hate it even more today. They always talk about the game getting faster and Stone is below average in that department.

Terrible news IMO.
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Please leave/stay. I mean, please go away/come here. What I’m trying to say is why are you still here/where are you?
Meh. Surely a pro like Stone would know that the team was going in a different direction, then the Valimaki injury happened and that changed a lot of things.

I doubt he feels awkward, and he's still getting his dough so he's probably happy he doesn't have to hang by the phone for a PTO and move cities again. Didn't he have a kid recently?
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Personally this move angers me. The next signings should have been Tkachuk or Mangiapane. Camp starts tomorrow as well so I would rather wait to see how guys like Davidson or maybe some other guys in the system do during camp before adding Stone.

I didn't like re-signing of Stone when we acquired Hamonic and I hate it even more today. They always talk about the game getting faster and Stone is below average in that department.

Terrible news IMO.
You can't pay a 7th any less and the full amount can be buried in the AHL. There's no downside here.
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