View Poll Results: Thoughts on the James Neal signing?
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Love It
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46.55% |
Love the add, worried about the term
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328 |
37.15% |
Neutral
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3.40% |
Wait and see
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8.04% |
Hate it
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4.87% |
07-02-2018, 09:11 AM
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#201
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius
When is the last time Neal played on a line with a player of Gaudreau's caliber, offensively?
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Hmmm....Malkin/Crosby?
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07-02-2018, 09:11 AM
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#202
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Ehhhh... seems like a lot of term for a 40-50 point guy who just turned 30. What else is new with UFAs. I guess there's no more high horse sitting around here about other teams signing dirty players.
I am mostly interested if there's a NMC or buyout protection.
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Lol, why do you come on here pretending to be a flames fan when everyone already knows you are a Canucks fan?
Wait that's the joke right, everyone knows you are doing it and we all play along?
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07-02-2018, 09:15 AM
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#203
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Lifetime Suspension
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What news to get up to. Neal is big, dirty and happens to be a great player. Checks all the boxes.
Older and not cheap, but teams that penny pinch or overthink the cap never get anywhere. Gotta give to get.
Very happy with this.
Maybe team team can have some swagger and now and that in turn motivates Brouwer? Pipe dream, but if that happens this team will be tough to play against.
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07-02-2018, 09:16 AM
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#204
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by 868904
Lol, why do you come on here pretending to be a flames fan when everyone already knows you are a Canucks fan?
Wait that's the joke right, everyone knows you are doing it and we all play along?
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Beagle and Roussel = 6.25M/4 years
Neal = 5.75M/5 years
Let that sink in for a moment...
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07-02-2018, 09:17 AM
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#205
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First Line Centre
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I have admittedly been a Neal fan since the Dallas days but have wavered with some of his weaselly play over the years. I have to say this is a huge signing and I am really excited about it. Neal will be perfect here- great talent with some veteran leadership and has matured. Like that he has some grit, as long as he plays on the edge and not over it. I was a bit underwhelmed with the flames moves so far but now... wow!!!
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07-02-2018, 09:18 AM
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#206
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Stampede Grounds
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Good signing a guy who is hungry to win and can fill a top 6 role. So much better than last year's acquisition. One more veteran depth signing for the bottom 6 and we are set for 2018/2019 with a great mix of youth and wisdom at all ends of the ice (paging Jarome Iginla).
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07-02-2018, 09:18 AM
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#207
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Franchise Player
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On the top line Neal should hopefully hit 50-55 points for the next few years.
After that, it'll be Seattle expansion and the last few years will likely become Seattle's problem, if he's still showing value relative to his contract.
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07-02-2018, 09:19 AM
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#208
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Hmmm....Malkin/Crosby?
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Was that the last time, though?
He had a 40g campaign, and another with a 40g pace... those were with PIT, I believe.
Did he play with anyone significant in NSH?
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... Eakins' claims Gagne's line played Kessel's line even...
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Yeah, Gagner's line was -4 and Kessel's was +4, so it all evened out.
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07-02-2018, 09:21 AM
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#209
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Originally Posted by jg13
He put up 40 one year playing alongside Malkin if I recall correctly.
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Ya, I'm curious if he has that potential again... he had more modest stats in NSH, but I assume he has much lesser linemates.
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Originally Posted by LickTheEnvelope View Post
... Eakins' claims Gagne's line played Kessel's line even...
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Yeah, Gagner's line was -4 and Kessel's was +4, so it all evened out.
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07-02-2018, 09:22 AM
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#210
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius
Did he play with anyone significant in NSH?
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Can't recall the line usage, but his last year in Nashville had Forsberg, Johansen, Arvidsson on the team.
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07-02-2018, 09:22 AM
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#211
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Lifetime Suspension
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Was leery of Neal with the six year term being thrown around but this cap hit at five years is a lot more reasonable. Shrewd negotiating by Treliving! This creates depth all through the forward ranks.
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07-02-2018, 09:23 AM
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#212
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Norm!
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This signing was great for another reason.
I'm a bit of a news hound, so last night before bed, I was sipping my brandy in my Howard Hughesesque smoking jacket when CTV news did their sports highlights with the TSN crew. Yup Taveres signs in Toronto get it, Lebron goes to LA . . . yup. Plekanec goes to Montreal . . . who freaking cares , Stastny goes to Vegas . . .burn, and in the last moves of the day Edmonton signs Brodziak and Reider and they show highlights of Brodziak scoring. Back to you news desk.
So F you, Treliving has had pretty much the best couple of weeks outside of Toronto who signed the free agent.
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07-02-2018, 09:23 AM
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#213
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by 868904
Lol, why do you come on here pretending to be a flames fan when everyone already knows you are a Canucks fan?
Wait that's the joke right, everyone knows you are doing it and we all play along?
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I think Corsi has earned the benefit of the doubt that he’s posting in good faith and thoroughly enjoys discussing hockey generally. What’s the point in personally ripping into the guy like this? His point was valid and has nothing to do with the Canucks. It comes off poorly for people who aren’t CHF when they try to brigade against him.
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07-02-2018, 09:24 AM
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#214
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Can't recall the line usage, but his last year in Nashville had Forsberg, Johansen, Arvidsson on the team.
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Forsberg is a RW too, correct?... so I don't imagine they played together much.
Hmm, I wonder if 35g isn't a reasonable expectation for Neal, assuming he plays with Gaudreau??
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Originally Posted by LickTheEnvelope View Post
... Eakins' claims Gagne's line played Kessel's line even...
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Originally Posted by Hells Bells View Post
Yeah, Gagner's line was -4 and Kessel's was +4, so it all evened out.
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07-02-2018, 09:24 AM
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#215
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureloss
can't recall the line usage, but his last year in nashville had forsberg, johansen, arvidsson on the team.
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17/18:
52.7 haula,erik - neal,james - perron,david
13.7 eakin,cody - neal,james - perron,david
5.4 haula,erik - neal,james - tatar,tomas
4.4 karlsson,william - marchessault,jonathan - neal,james
16/17:
19.6 jarnkrok,calle - neal,james - wilson,colin
14.7 arvidsson,viktor - johansen,ryan - neal,james
12.9 forsberg,filip - johansen,ryan - neal,james
9.8 fisher,mike - neal,james - wilson,colin
5.4 fiala,kevin - jarnkrok,calle - neal,james
4.7 jarnkrok,calle - neal,james - ribeiro,mike
15/16:
24.5 jarnkrok,calle - johansen,ryan - neal,james
14 fisher,mike - forsberg,filip - neal,james
7.4 forsberg,filip - neal,james - ribeiro,mike
5.4 forsberg,filip - johansen,ryan - neal,james
4.8 forsberg,filip - jarnkrok,calle - neal,james
14/15:
43.9 forsberg,filip - neal,james - ribeiro,mike
18.4 fisher,mike - neal,james - wilson,colin
10.8 neal,james - ribeiro,mike - wilson,colin
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07-02-2018, 09:25 AM
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#216
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FlamesNation23
Hamilton for lindholm, hanifin, and neal. Ya i like that
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Since the Hamilton trade created less cap space, I don’t know how you can attach a random UFA signing to that trade.
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07-02-2018, 09:25 AM
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#217
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Franchise Player
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What a great signing. He was the face of the Vegas franchise at the start of the season.
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07-02-2018, 09:25 AM
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#218
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Franchise Player
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Love this deal.
What an offseason for the GM, that fire Treliving thread should be locked.
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07-02-2018, 09:26 AM
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#219
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
Biggest reasons I can see are Czarnik, Mangiapane, Foo, Klimchuk, Lazar are all pushing; Lindholm, Hanifin and Jankowski among those RFA’s that need to be signed and only 13 mill left to do so; Tkachuk extension coming with very little coming off the books next UFA period and it makes sense to sell on Frolik now to maybe a team that is desperate to add after not getting what they want on free agency.
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Klimckuk and Lazar are not pushing for much, let alone Frolik
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07-02-2018, 09:28 AM
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#220
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
Are the Flames cup contenders?
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Any team that can make the playoffs is essentially a cup contender, so yes.
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