I have a question regarding what happened to Versteeg. He was noticeably hurt when he got hit in the knee, the refs didn't call the play dead which resulted in Kris getting hit in the head. So if Versteeg got a concussion from this and never played again, could he sue the four officials for allowing this to happen?
My wife and I were talking about it and got me wondering.
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If I recall, the play isn't called dead until one of the Flames players touches the puck.
The flames didn't touch the puck after it hit him in the head. They blew it down right away, so that does happen.
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If it were a Canes player and the Flames had possession, we’d be livid if they blew the whistle. I think the refs made the right play, was just really unfortunate series of events.
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The flames didn't touch the puck after it hit him in the head. They blew it down right away, so that does happen.
Yes, the refs can blow the play at their discretion. In this case I would say they did a pretty good job not blowing it when Versteeg hurt his knee but then blowing when it looked like he took a puck in the head.
It is just an unfortunate freak thing the 2nd injury only happened because Versteeg was already injured.
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The shot off the knee doesn’t need to be blown down until the Flames touch it. The shot off the dome got whistled down immediately. It was the right sequence of events.
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Yes, the refs can blow the play at their discretion. In this case I would say they did a pretty good job not blowing it when Versteeg hurt his knee but then blowing when it looked like he took a puck in the head.
It is just an unfortunate freak thing the 2nd injury only happened because Versteeg was already injured.
Agree with this. I think Skinner just turned and shot and couldn't stop in time. You could tell he regretted that.
Unfortunately we risk situations as the one you posed due to the fact that the NHL doesn't want players embellishing and playing dead to get out of situations where the opposing team is about to score or they're getting hemmed in
Unless it's a potentially serious injury (like life-threatening serious), they're not supposed to blow it dead until the injured player's team gains possession of the puck. This is to prevent players from faking an injury when they're under heavy pressure.
The downside of that rule is that sometimes we see things like this, or that time a few years ago when one of the Flames d-men took a puck off the ankle and was in obvious pain but couldn't get off the ice or stop the play and ended up taking at least one more heavy shot before the other team scored (I believe it was in OT against Phoenix -- Derek Smith, maybe?).
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Yeah but that was against the Penguins. I am surprised that Werenski was not called for Interference. Same team that did not get a penalty for severing a finger.
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That one, I would argue, should have been stopped. Puck to the face and streaming blood onto the ice. I'd argue that crosses the line into "serious injury" territory.
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I forget which player it was but a few years back a player flopped on the ice and the other team picked up the puck and headed up the ice and they blew the whistle killing the scoring chance, and it turned out the player wasn't all that hurt.
So after that injuries require a possession change
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The downside of that rule is that sometimes we see things like this, or that time a few years ago when one of the Flames d-men took a puck off the ankle and was in obvious pain but couldn't get off the ice or stop the play and ended up taking at least one more heavy shot before the other team scored (I believe it was in OT against Phoenix -- Derek Smith, maybe?).
Unless it's a potentially serious injury (like life-threatening serious), they're not supposed to blow it dead until the injured player's team gains possession of the puck. This is to prevent players from faking an injury when they're under heavy pressure.
The downside of that rule is that sometimes we see things like this, or that time a few years ago when one of the Flames d-men took a puck off the ankle and was in obvious pain but couldn't get off the ice or stop the play and ended up taking at least one more heavy shot before the other team scored (I believe it was in OT against Phoenix -- Derek Smith, maybe?).
It ticked me off to see Skinner choose that very shooting lane though, as he must have been well aware that Versteeg was down at that point. He was the one causing the situation to begin with and he was close to it facing in the direction of the goal. In my mind he deserved a punch after that sequence.
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