People were quick to anoint Jarmo as a genius for his moves of Anderson for Domi and Dubois for Laine and Roslivic. On paper both of those looked like clear wins for the Jackets but they certainly have not worked out. Getting the 1sts for Foligno and Savard were nice pickups but his 2 big hockey deals that looked like sure wins are not aging well in the early returns
Roslovic has 29 points in 39 games...Laine still has value he just isn't a fit. I still do that deal.
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Domi would be a nice addition, especially if we sell high on Tkachuk and also receiving some of the physicality we’ve lost from Bennett. Though, someone is gonna need to tell me if they’ve watched Domi and if he still plays that gritty game. If Domi doesn’t work out then it was a one year trial and he continues hopping teams. I do think he’d play much better on a line with Gaudreau and Lindholm. Could even take draws if Lindholm isn’t.
I really don't see how people are continuing to have Gaudreau on the team in the future. Adding Domi to this team would be like saying "ok, this team is garbage, let's add another player who can't crack the lineup of another bad team"
This team needs changes. Major changes. They really need to look at getting rid of most guys on this team because they're clearly not good enough.
Adding Domi to this team is the equivalent of adding a spoiler to an '86 Chevette. Sounds like you're adding something good but overall, it's still terrible.
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Roslovic has 29 points in 39 games...Laine still has value he just isn't a fit. I still do that deal.
‘Still has value’ is even underselling it. They’re going to come out of this with Roslovic and a good return for an inevitable Laine trade. Which will be substantial when compared directly to Dubois.
Guys like this are always valuable:
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I really don't see how people are continuing to have Gaudreau on the team in the future. Adding Domi to this team would be like saying "ok, this team is garbage, let's add another player who can't crack the lineup of another bad team"
This team needs changes. Major changes. They really need to look at getting rid of most guys on this team because they're clearly not good enough.
Adding Domi to this team is the equivalent of adding a spoiler to an '86 Chevette. Sounds like you're adding something good but overall, it's still terrible.
Even if Domi is a “cap dump”, we have to take salary back if we deal with any team. Cap space has become the best form of currency nowadays, especially in times like these.
Roslovic has 29 points in 39 games...Laine still has value he just isn't a fit. I still do that deal.
Laine is the key piece and I am sure Roslivic could have been had for a lesser return than Dubois. I don’t make that trade again as Columbus as they went from one disgruntled young player to another.
My point is that both deals were viewed as big wins for the Jackets. Things could still turn in their favor but both deals look like losses today.
Last summer if you told me that they would turn Dubois (trade request), Anderson (RFA wanting a 1 or 7 year deal who scoredk 1 goal last year), Folgino and Savard into Laine, Domi, Roslivic 2 1st rounders, a 3rd and a 4th I would say that is unreal GM work. The 2 biggest pieces for the Jackets in Domi and Laine both looking horrible is sure taking the shine off those deals right now
I really don't see how people are continuing to have Gaudreau on the team in the future. Adding Domi to this team would be like saying "ok, this team is garbage, let's add another player who can't crack the lineup of another bad team"
This team needs changes. Major changes. They really need to look at getting rid of most guys on this team because they're clearly not good enough.
Adding Domi to this team is the equivalent of adding a spoiler to an '86 Chevette. Sounds like you're adding something good but overall, it's still terrible.
Domi for Monahan might not be the worst deal out there for the Flames to try and shake things up?
Try and trade guys like Monahan and Gaudreau for young players and picks, Domi would be more of an "included" part of a deal. This team isn't going to be a contender for a while, get future value for players. If Domi is the best return you can get for Monahan then you'd be better off to put Monahan on waivers or not protect him in the expansion draft. Domi has some value but as bad as Monahan as been playing, he has more.
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Try and trade guys like Monahan and Gaudreau for young players and picks, Domi would be more of an "included" part of a deal. This team isn't going to be a contender for a while, get future value for players. If Domi is the best return you can get for Monahan then you'd be better off to put Monahan on waivers or not protect him in the expansion draft. Domi has some value but as bad as Monahan as been playing, he has more.
Yeah, I don't see the point of a trade like that. It's what keeps the team mediocre. Domi isn't going to transform into a 1C. Monahan is just as likely to turn it around and be what he was. And by "just as likely" I mean "not very".
Same goes for Gaudreau. You can trade him but if you are trying to get an equal or better player, the answer is "nope". So get picks and prospects and start over.
Jeez Louise, you think Monahan sucks....
Wait till you get a load 9f Domi in a Flames jersey. He regressed far worse from a much lower production rate to begin with. Yall are smokin some good stuff.
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Jeez Louise, you think Monahan sucks....
Wait till you get a load 9f Domi in a Flames jersey. He regressed far worse from a much lower production rate to begin with. Yall are smokin some good stuff.
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One is a defenceman. A 24 year old one, in his 3rd season. The other is a 26 year old forward in his 6th season, and who's supposed to be a decent scorer.
Andersson is going to be good value especially if the cap rises after COVID. His salary is pretty on par with similar aged and similar producing guys like Zaitsev, DeHaan, Murray, Matheson, Severson, Brodin, etc.
Ummm we are talking about Josh Anderson and Max Domi
Edited my original post to make that a little more clear.
No chance I would trade Rasmus for Max Domi though.
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‘Still has value’ is even underselling it. They’re going to come out of this with Roslovic and a good return for an inevitable Laine trade. Which will be substantial when compared directly to Dubois.
Guys like this are always valuable:
The floor for Laine seems to be Vanek. Interestingly, Vanek didn't crack the league until age 22 (due to lockout season), whereas Laine has more/less matched Vanek's first 5 years:
TV: 389gp 172g 313P (318-144-260 first 4 years)
PL: 343 - 150-267 (305-138-247 first 4 years)
Domi for Monahan might not be the worst deal out there for the Flames to try and shake things up?
To the amateur eye test, Domi is looking less and less talented and more and more unstable. Almost like he decided to go both feet first on trying to be a tough guy and forego working on being a talented player.
‘Still has value’ is even underselling it. They’re going to come out of this with Roslovic and a good return for an inevitable Laine trade. Which will be substantial when compared directly to Dubois.
Guys like this are always valuable:
That escape speed is a thing that's missing from our top players.
My Proposals for major roster shakeups this year (a bit different than some others and my past self; I suggest moving on from Tkachuk and Monahan while keeping Gaudreau.)
Monahan for Domi? That’s pathetic, Monahan will get a lot more then that. You mean similar to the posters that said we would be lucky to get a 5th for Bennett?
Signing Hall at this age with his stats being so volatile recently has too much James Neal written all over it. Granted Hall is faster now than Neal 10 years ago but as much as I was on that sign Hall bandwagon, I think we should look else hwere.
