08-04-2018, 01:11 PM
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#421
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Originally Posted by shadowlord
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And hes damned right. Preach on Mr. Versteeg!
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08-04-2018, 01:53 PM
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#422
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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I hope the Flames, Stamps, Hitmen and Roughnecks refuse all interview requests and ignore all Postmedia reporters in media scrums. Does Postmedia have any real reporters anymore anyway?
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08-04-2018, 02:23 PM
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#423
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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What's a newspaper? Are those still a thing?
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08-04-2018, 02:48 PM
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#424
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by cannon7
What's a newspaper? Are those still a thing?
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Yes, hence the response here and on social media.
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08-04-2018, 03:36 PM
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#425
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
In all fairness to The Sun, the publication exists primarily to entice poor people to vote for policies against their better interests by misprepsenting issues that are pro-business as being universally positive and by redirecting their hate at immigrants, natives, people even pooerer than them, public servants, and those with serious issues such as drug addiction and mental illness. At it's core, it a morally reprehensible propaganda print and it's embarrassing it exists insofar that our society has monetized something so integral to democratic society as print media and put it in the hands of charlitans. It's incredibly sad that the only two newspaper publications left with sufficient integrity to be worth reading in this country are the Toronto star and globe and mail, neither of which are owned by post media.
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This is utter codswallop, clearly written by a knee-jerk Leftist living in a Leftist bubble, whose only contact with ‘poor people’ probably comes from being waited on at fast-food joints, or seeing the odd panhandler in the streets – but I'll come to that in a bit.
I'll tell you why the Sun exists:
1. It's a newspaper that does not slant left in a city with a large base of right-wing readers. I have known many people who considered the Sun junk, but chose to read it because they would not pay for a paper that they considered a propaganda rag for the opposite side. The fact that you consider the worst propaganda machine in the country, the Toronto Star, as having ‘sufficient integrity’ to be ‘worth reading’, only shows your own extremism. You are blind not only to how your political opponents think, and what they think, but to the fact that they think at all.
2. It's a tabloid. Tabloids were designed for easy reading on buses and trains, in waiting rooms, and at restaurant tables. The Herald was a broadsheet, which made it physically inconvenient for such purposes. The management of the Herald (I used to know a few of them) were arrogant beyond belief in the days when the Sun was started, and thought they were the only newspaper in town and people ought to read whatever news they chose to print, in whatever format they chose to print it in. They were continually dumbfounded that anyone would choose a different newspaper, especially for a trivial reason like actually being physically able to read it while commuting. A senior Herald editor explained to me that only an idiot would ever read a tabloid, because an intelligent person would automatically know the correct way to fold and re-fold a paper to read on the bus. But many thousands of readers disagreed, and left off reading the Herald simply because it was inconvenient to them and the Sun wasn't.
(Meanwhile, in Britain, where a much larger percentage of the work force commutes by mass transit, all the papers, including the very left-wing Guardian, abandoned the broadsheet format decades ago to be more convenient for their readers. The Herald refused to understand this point.)
As for ‘enticing poor people to vote for policies against their interests’, I suggest you find out what the interests of poor people actually are. Try asking some. There are intelligent poor people, there are educated poor people, and they are not a mass of moronic automatons to be pushed around by the newspaper business. Nor does any newspaper in a market economy exist for such a purpose. Save the conspiracy theories: there is no Pravda or Völkischer Beobachter in the English-speaking world.
If you want to know what poor people believe their interests are, ask some. I guarantee you will be either surprised or contemptuous, because they will not agree with what you believe they ought to think.
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08-04-2018, 04:03 PM
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#426
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GullFoss
In all fairness to The Sun, the publication exists primarily to entice poor people to vote for policies against their better interests by misprepsenting issues that are pro-business as being universally positive and by redirecting their hate at immigrants, natives, people even pooerer than them, public servants, and those with serious issues such as drug addiction and mental illness. At it's core, it a morally reprehensible propaganda print and it's embarrassing it exists insofar that our society has monetized something so integral to democratic society as print media and put it in the hands of charlitans. It's incredibly sad that the only two newspaper publications left with sufficient integrity to be worth reading in this country are the Toronto star and globe and mail, neither of which are owned by post media.
But sure, let's all get worked up over a Troy brouwer headline.
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This is utter bs, everyone knows poor people can't read and don't vote, and even when they do manage to pry themselves away from their fast food and magic box stories long enough to try, they somehow spoil their ballots by selecting too many boxes.
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08-04-2018, 04:04 PM
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#427
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by monkeyman
This is utter bs, everyone knows poor people can't read and don't vote, and even when they do manage to pry themselves away from their fast food and magic box stories long enough to try, they somehow spoil their ballots by selecting too many boxes.
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Gee, is that what I was doing wrong?
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08-04-2018, 04:34 PM
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#428
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeyman
I hope the Flames, Stamps, Hitmen and Roughnecks refuse all interview requests and ignore all Postmedia reporters in media scrums. Does Postmedia have any real reporters anymore anyway?
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Ya thats the solution, get hard working reporters and others to pay the price for one idiot editor.
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08-04-2018, 04:43 PM
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#429
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Da_Chief
Ya thats the solution, get hard working reporters and others to pay the price for one idiot editor.
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I see nothing wrong with it. The paper is making them pay for it, not the teams. They can still cover the games, write and print their stories.
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08-04-2018, 04:43 PM
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#430
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Not an original opinion at this stage of the thread, but yes, a ridiculous headline that I voiced my displeasure over within the channels available, as well. Embarrassing all around.
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08-04-2018, 04:45 PM
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#431
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Da_Chief
Ya thats the solution, get hard working reporters and others to pay the price for one idiot editor.
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The reporters with brains are deserting the sinking ship as fast as they can, and finding work in industries with a future. I can't work up a lot of sympathy for those who stay on board.
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08-04-2018, 04:51 PM
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#432
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeyman
I hope the Flames, Stamps, Hitmen and Roughnecks refuse all interview requests and ignore all Postmedia reporters in media scrums. Does Postmedia have any real reporters anymore anyway?
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They have several that are quite good.
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08-04-2018, 05:01 PM
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#433
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Freeway
They have several that are quite good.
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I'm sure you're right. I probably shouldn't lump the reporters in with the management for that rag.
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08-04-2018, 05:24 PM
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#434
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Classless headline, but honestly good riddance
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08-04-2018, 05:42 PM
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#435
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Franchise Player
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I believe Brouwer was building a house in Calgary before he was even a Flame, I suspect a house will go up for sale after that headline.
I couldn't stand Brouwer as a player but the editor of that classless rag should be tarred,feathered and fired
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08-04-2018, 05:47 PM
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#436
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
I believe Brouwer was building a house in Calgary before he was even a Flame, I suspect a house will go up for sale after that headline.
I couldn't stand Brouwer as a player but the editor of that classless rag should be tarred,feathered and fired
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I believe he chose to build in Calgary to begin with because his father, who lives in Calgary, had recently suffered a stroke and Troy wanted to be close to him.
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08-04-2018, 06:05 PM
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#437
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Originally Posted by shadowlord
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Oh Cormac Versteeg. Right idea. It’s ‘have’, not ‘of’.
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08-04-2018, 09:38 PM
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#439
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: An Island in the Atlantic
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
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100% proud to be a jerk. At least I don't (always) look like a complete idiot in my writing, and I have close to zero respect for people that spell badly. His tweet made me cringe.
In other news, I realize I will be alone for the rest of my life and I'm perfectly happy with that. People who spell poorly can ###### the h-e-double-hockey-sticks off--I personally want nothing to do with them (and they probably want nothing to do with me either, so it works).
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08-04-2018, 09:44 PM
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#440
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2011
Location: in the belly of the beast.
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Originally Posted by ASP#26525
100% proud to be a jerk. At least I don't (always) look like a complete idiot in my writing, and I have close to zero respect for people that spell badly. His tweet made me cringe.
In other news, I realize I will be alone for the rest of my life and I'm perfectly happy with that. People who spell poorly can ###### the h-e-double-hockey-sticks off--I personally want nothing to do with them (and they probably want nothing to do with me either, so it works).
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this poste maid mee laff
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