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Old 09-07-2016, 05:17 PM   #1261
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Why does it bug you? Because basically all technology is antiquated after 2 years? That's not an Apple thing, that's a life thing.
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Old 09-07-2016, 05:17 PM   #1262
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Samsung: Our new phones blow up, please give them back
CP Response: *Crickets*
Hopefully those explosions don't happen as they're being used for the baseline VR experiences. I cringe just thinking about that possibility.
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Old 09-07-2016, 05:21 PM   #1263
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Why does it bug you? Because basically all technology is antiquated after 2 years? That's not an Apple thing, that's a life thing.
Windows 10 won't be. My computer won't be.
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Old 09-07-2016, 05:24 PM   #1264
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They already are.
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Old 09-07-2016, 05:27 PM   #1265
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I don't care that they tried to sell me stuff. Referring to my barely-two-year-old iPad as antiquated, though? That's what bugs me.

But MMF is right, it isn't that big of a deal.
As someone who stated Apple is done for because they removed the 3.5mm minijack, I would have thought you would have appreciated the hyperbole.
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Touche ^
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Old 09-07-2016, 05:38 PM   #1267
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I'm curious how waterproof this new phone actually is? Apple's presentation labeled it water resistant, the media is calling it waterproof. There's a substantial difference between the two so I'm looking forward to the inevitable they didn't tell us we couldn't use it at 3 atms outcry.
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Old 09-07-2016, 05:48 PM   #1268
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I'm curious how waterproof this new phone actually is? Apple's presentation labeled it water resistant, the media is calling it waterproof. There's a substantial difference between the two so I'm looking forward to the inevitable they didn't tell us we couldn't use it at 3 atms outcry.
What do you mean, it is waterproof..........
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Old 09-07-2016, 05:53 PM   #1269
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I found it, it's only good to 1m, which means if it goes into a hot tub or pool it's potentially a goner.
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Old 09-07-2016, 06:06 PM   #1270
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Speaking of Apple Music you can now get a year for $99. Either get a card in store or an online code here:

https://www.paypal-gifts.com/en_ca/g...pplemusic.html
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Old 09-07-2016, 06:37 PM   #1271
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Windows 10 won't be. My computer won't be.
I find computers pretty antiquated after 2 years or so; video cards especially. Though I'm definitely in the gaming rig segment of the population. Ironically, I've found Windows 10 to be a bit of a pain in the ass so far.

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They tried to get me to buy an iPad mini 4 because my iPad was "antiquated and obsolete". I bought it under three years ago.

I walked into a dealership with a friend and they tried to get me to buy a new car on the same basis.
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Old 09-07-2016, 07:26 PM   #1272
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Apple's days will be numbered eventually, but probably not for 10 more years at least. Sitting on $260 billion in cash doesn't hurt (well, maybe a little).
Over 5 years ago according to Bertuzzied Apple's demise was imminent and then a few years later they broke records for all time profits. Apple is going nowhere.
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Old 09-07-2016, 07:29 PM   #1273
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Over 5 years ago according to Bertuzzied Apple's demise was imminent and then a few years later they broke records for all time profits. Apple is going nowhere.
Mind bottling.
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Mind bottling.
I'm laughing at this because he used to use that phrase a lot.
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Old 09-07-2016, 07:38 PM   #1275
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I'm laughing at this because he used to use that phrase a lot.
Oh, it was intended. It is also worth laughing at the absurd claim; indicative of him and his posts.
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Old 09-07-2016, 08:31 PM   #1276
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Figured in the spirit of the iPhone 7 announcement I would bump this today.

This will be my make or break day for Apple products. If they ditch the headphone jack, they ditch me as a customer. I've already junked a ton of peripherals from the iPhone 3-4 days because of the 16 pin to lighting jack upgrade, as most of them were wobbly or useless with an adaptor. I've already had to replace every cable and connector to lightning. Now I have to ditch my headphones for some crappy proprietary Apple connector? Ain't gonna happen.

The other stuff I could live with, but I have a few hundred dollars in headphones that aren't gonna go to the waste pile because they want to sell me more adaptors and connectors. And what if I wanna charge my phone while I'm listening to music? Oh, yeah, I'm sure you'll need another proprietary adaptor as well. And I will not use bluetooth headphones. I've yet to hear a pair loud ebnough, or with good enough quality to warrant the price.

It also makes me realize what an incredibly wasteful, environmentally harmful company Apple is. All of these cables, adaptors and peripherals customers have are likely sent to the waste bin every 3-4 years. I think it's finally time to look at other products should this headphone jack rumour be true. And to be honest, the rock solid Apple reliability is not there anymore. My current iPhone6 is on it's 3rd Applecare replacement, and my current Macbook Retina is a giant POS. I think the effect of Jobs OCD like quality control is really starting to become more and more apparant.
For the record I am no Apple fan boy and think pretty much everything they produce is overpriced. That said I do not get the outrage about the headphone jack. Apple said they are going to include the adapter so you can still use the same headphones you always used.

Is it true that its just another money grab to try to convince users to buy apple headphones? Most definitely. Does it also free up space for other things in the phone? Well that is their claim and makes a fair amount of sense. Changes can be scary but not sure why this is such deal breaker for so many?
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Old 09-07-2016, 08:31 PM   #1277
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But their products aren't "obsolete" they just work "less well", like all technology. My son still uses our Ipad2 for videos and children's games. It's sluggish but fine for that purpose. I bought it the day it came out which was over 5 years ago. Not bad.
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Old 09-07-2016, 09:05 PM   #1278
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Good article. I'd be excited today if I was an audiophile and an iPhone user.
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For the record I am no Apple fan boy and think pretty much everything they produce is overpriced. That said I do not get the outrage about the headphone jack. Apple said they are going to include the adapter so you can still use the same headphones you always used.

Is it true that its just another money grab to try to convince users to buy apple headphones? Most definitely. Does it also free up space for other things in the phone? Well that is their claim and makes a fair amount of sense. Changes can be scary but not sure why this is such deal breaker for so many?
The biggest thing for me is not being able to charge my phone while using headphones. There are countless times when I've needed to charge my phone while continuing to use headphones for music/netflix. It's silly and inconvenient I won't be able to do both at the same time without purchasing expensive wireless headphones. I assumed that this move would coincide with the addition of wireless charging, without that option this is a big miss imo.
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Old 09-07-2016, 10:44 PM   #1280
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Good article. I'd be excited today if I was an audiophile and an iPhone user.
Why? All the stuff in that article was possible with the 3.5mm jack still being part of the phone. In fact that's precisely what the author was doing, using the Lightning connector on an iPhone 6S to test a pair of headphones that were released nearly a year ago.

I'm also skeptical of the author's listening impressions, particularly when he compares the DACs. The signal out of the 3.5mm jack in iPhones is virtually transparent. More likely, the Lightning connector can produce louder audio with that particular $1000 headphone setup, which tends to trick people into thinking it sounds better. Non-blind audio comparisons are rife with bias and placebo effects.
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