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Old 02-16-2025, 11:56 AM   #961
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Wish we were in the mix for Misa.
His gameplay is just phenomenal.
I guess the silver lining here is we have an elite Goalie who is super young and just scratching the surface of his abilities in this league being the reason for not being in the mix for Misa is a damned good silver lining; I agree though, going into the season I was hoping to be in the mix for Misa in the 5 to 10 range, but seeing him play makes me realize he’s a likely top 2 and potentially a 1OA, an absolutely incredible piece to dream about for sure especially with the Parehk connection. I wouldn’t cry if the Flames went on a free fall but again with Wolf being so dominant I can’t see it.
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Old 02-16-2025, 01:53 PM   #962
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Given all of Canada hockey fans' collective anxiety over lack of elite goaltending talent, are there any Canadian goalies in this or recent draft classes we can be excited about?
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Old 02-16-2025, 02:02 PM   #963
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Given all of Canada hockey fans' collective anxiety over lack of elite goaltending talent, are there any Canadian goalies in this or recent draft classes we can be excited about?
Carter George (LAK, 2nd rounder 2024) is pretty solid. Not much else to get excited about in recent classes though.

As for the upcoming draft, most lists have Joshua Ravensbergen in the late 1st and Jack Ivankovic in the 2nd. Ivankovic is pretty small though (5'11 179) ... I think I've read somewhere that his dad is 6'5 or something like that, so there's hope for a late growth spurt, I guess?
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Old 02-17-2025, 12:46 AM   #964
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Draft Thoughts (Finnish Edition, Vol. 1):

LD Lasse Boelius (6'0.5",181lbs)
Assat (U20): 28gp/ 4g/ 10a/ 14pts, -7, 10 PIM
Assat (Liiga): 7gp/ 0g/ 2a/ 2pts, +1, 2 PIM

Finland hockey has been struggling the last few years, and their top prospect for the 2025 Draft may not be chosen until the third round. That prospect is lefty-defenseman Lasse Boelius, who is tied for 30th-overall in scoring by D in the U20, but is actually tied for 1st among defensemen under-18. His performance in the Junior league has earned him 7 games in Finland's top-tier Liiga (2 points), where he doesn't look at all out of place against men, even though he doesn't get to play a ton of minutes. Central Scouting's 10th-ranked EU Skater is a mobile, well-rounded, two-way puck-mover who plays important minutes, and is a calming presence on both ends of the ice for his team. He plays in all situations, and contributes well to special teams. Craig Button has him at # 46, and McKenzie has him at # 65.

Scouts like to see an elite quality or two in a prospect to build around, and in Boelius' case, that quality is his passing efficiency and accuracy that drives his puck-movement game. According to tracking data, he completes 94% of the passes he attempts, and the eye test says that most of his feeds are crisp, accurate, and right on the tape. Boelius owns a high-level of vision and awareness- he anticipates the play well, and understands how to create space for himself and for his teammates. The main pillar of Boelius' game is his puck-movement through retrievals, to the breakout, to traversal through the neutral zone via the pass. He shakes off attackers with evasiveness and deception, and usually makes good decisions under pressure to execute a high-number of quick, accurate breakouts with calmness and poise. He can stretch the ice on occasion for odd-man rushes and breakaways, and holds high value in transition from defense to offense. Boelius is an excellent skater who covers a lot of ground quickly, with smooth edges for superb agility and escapability, and the ability to separate in open ice, or outmaneuver would-be checkers. He could use more explosiveness, but that might improve as he gets stronger. He transitions seamlessly to backwards skating, and is a reliable defensive player who doesn't make many mistakes, but his positioning needs a tweak, and his gap-control looks a bit loose at times- giving attackers too much room to move. Still, he manages to apply ample pressure to puck-carriers with a well-timed stick, and plus-level awareness.

Boelius supports the rush as a secondary attacker to quarterback the play, and he runs the offense efficiently from the line, especially on the PP. He distributes well and creates chances for teammates, and will pinch in to keep pucks alive- thereby extending offensive zone time, but will also activate all the way down to the net if he spots a clear opportunity for a chance to score. There is work to be done to improve the power in his shot, but he has to develop a much more deceptive release as a lot of his shots get blocked. Another pillar of his game might be his off-puck intelligence; he always knows where to be to support the play, and is a playable option for teammates at all times. Boelius isn't really a physical player, but he manages to win puck battles and will finish his checks when needed. There are instances where he gets too risky with his passes up-ice, so he must learn patience and better decision-making. When in defensive situations, he can be eager to leave the zone early with too much focus on offense, and he could be much more impactful along the wall and in front of his net if he were to develop a more physical dimension. Boelius has the kind of puck-movement game and transitional ability that scouts covet, but while he will put up points at the NHL level, he may never be a top-pairing offensive blueliner- but rather a second-pairing two-way contributor. Look for him in the 2nd, or 3rd-round.

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Old 02-17-2025, 11:00 PM   #965
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Ok, what would we think hypothetically if the Flames used one of their firsts to choose a goalie, the best one being Ravensbergen.

Wolfie is going to be 24 years old in a few months, so by the time Ravensberger was ready for full-time backup duty (5 years), Wolf would be 29.

Not sure about that, but I do wonder if we should take a shot at D Henry Brzustewicz with one of our firsts- he’s a highly underrated offensive player with a well-rounded game and some size and snarl.

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Old 02-17-2025, 11:04 PM   #966
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Ok, what would we think hypothetically if the Flames used one of their firsts to choose a goalie, the best one being Ravensberger.

Wolfie is going to be 24 years old in a few months, so by the time Ravensberger was ready for full-time backup duty (5 years), Wolf would be 29.

Not sure about that, but I do wonder if we should take a shot at D Henry Brzustewicz with one of our firsts- he’s a highly underrated offensive player with a well-rounded game and some size and snarl.
They shouldn't be using a 1st on a goalie at this stage, not even close.

When they had 2 2nds still I would have liked to use one of them on Brzustewicz but using a 1st on him now seems like a reach to me
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I'd hate it. I don't think we should think about using a 1st on a goalie at this point, and there should be solid forward options available for these picks.

If they want to throw another mid/late-round dart at a goalie, I'm all for it. But not in the first two rounds.
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Old 02-18-2025, 09:06 AM   #968
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The Flames are so devoid of C prospects I'd be happy if they just used every single pick on Cs.
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Old 02-18-2025, 09:29 AM   #969
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The Flames are so devoid of C prospects I'd be happy if they just used every single pick on Cs.
Cootes, murtagh, horcoff kind of thing?
I dont think o’brien, bear, ryabakin or martin will be at our spots.
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Old 02-18-2025, 09:50 AM   #970
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Big pass on Mcqueen with his back issues. He has Nolan Patrick written all over him.
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Old 02-18-2025, 10:13 AM   #971
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Cootes, murtagh, horcoff kind of thing?
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Old 02-18-2025, 10:42 AM   #972
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Mid to rate round picks on goalies sure, but a 1st no thank you.

Shesterkin played his first full season of 53 games at 25 and is now signed to a 8 year deal at 29, I think goalie can last as long as they are not overplayed like we did Kipper. Kipper averaged 73 games a season his last 7 seasons.
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