10-31-2020, 09:31 AM
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#301
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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He really protects the puck well in those videos; always seems to be able to keep his body between the defender and the puck.
Impressive
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10-31-2020, 09:33 AM
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#302
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CP's Fraser Crane
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Glad to see him doing well after a major injury like that. However it’s just a glorified beer league according to some
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
...I saw bad goaltending, bad defensive coverage and wide open Euro Ice surfaces with lots of space. It was literally looking like that beer league game that you and I would play in that had that one college player who thought he should have been in the NHL if it wasn't for his knee injury who shows up and dominates.
Frankly at that level of hockey he should have dominated, its great that he played in a league that paid him and the other players probably got paid in the season end Pizza Party. But the NHL and AHL are several levels above SM-Liga. They play on the small ice, and the players are faster, better coaches and way more aware... .
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10-31-2020, 09:54 AM
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#303
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Franchise Player
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His NHL equivalency (NHLe), with his 11pts in 11 SM-Liga gp, is 37pts over an 82 game NHL season.
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10-31-2020, 09:58 AM
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#304
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stang
Glad to see him doing well after a major injury like that. However it’s just a glorified beer league according to some
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Ironically, Puljujärvi has a similar NHLe.
Although one plays defence, and the other is an Oiler.
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10-31-2020, 10:01 AM
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#305
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stang
Glad to see him doing well after a major injury like that. However it’s just a glorified beer league according to some
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Good thing the discussion is trying to figure out where Liiga is vs the AHL and not gifting the player a top six role with McDavid!
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10-31-2020, 10:05 AM
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#306
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
I genuinely can’t tell if this league is any good - Valimaki looks like he’s toying with them.
Maybe I should be content that he’s better than his opponents.
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I mean it's not a great league but I think him being head and shoulders above most of the league just proves we have a legitimate top four NHL talent right now in Valimaki. Which is exciting after him missing an entire year.
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10-31-2020, 10:09 AM
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#307
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by BigErnSalute_16
I mean it's not a great league but I think him being head and shoulders above most of the league just proves we have a legitimate top four NHL talent right now in Valimaki. Which is exciting after him missing an entire year.
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Regardless of competition, just good to see him bouncing back and getting some ice time. Will help a lot when the season starts over here.
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10-31-2020, 10:10 AM
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#308
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Regardless of competition, just good to see him bouncing back and getting some ice time. Will help a lot when the season starts over here.
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definitely! can't wait to see him in action with the Flames
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10-31-2020, 10:11 AM
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#309
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Originally Posted by Samonadreau
Much debate about this but the AHL is definitely superior to Liiga.
Probably goes similar to this order.
NHL
KHL
SHL
AHL
those are top 4 for sure.
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KHL isn't that good, and people always sell Liiga short. In World Championships Russia typically goes nowhere without their NHL stars, while Finland is for example right now the ruling champion with mostly Liiga players. (Of course 2020 games got canceled but the point stands.) People sell Liiga short. Even Finns do that.
When KHL teams play other Euro team, like in the Spengler cup, they have success on par with Swiss teams. I'd say KHL is on average maaaybe as good as Liiga, but really outside of their stars, the average skill level in the KHL is nothing special. Having seen some KHL games live, it's nothing special.
The best KHL players are of course really good.
There's no question IMO that SHL is better than KHL. It's the best Euro league and a tier above others, as proven for example by the European Champions League.
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10-31-2020, 10:25 AM
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#310
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by AC
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Ridiculous. Is that an extremely tall Gaudreau dangling out there?
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10-31-2020, 10:28 AM
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#311
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by stang
Glad to see him doing well after a major injury like that. However it’s just a glorified beer league according to some
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Well that might be bad news bears for JP resurgence hopefuls then.
Valimaki was taking over a top 4 role here already in his last NHL stint so we have the consolation of already knowing he can play.
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10-31-2020, 10:29 AM
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#312
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Regardless of competition, just good to see him bouncing back and getting some ice time. Will help a lot when the season starts over here.
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Agreed...he has a lot of time to make up for.
Just cannot throw him to the wolves if/when there is an NHL season and this will really help.
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10-31-2020, 12:18 PM
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#313
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Ilves has become even stronger now after adding top Coyotes prospect Barrett Hayton to the team.
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11-01-2020, 02:25 PM
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#314
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Ridiculous. Is that an extremely tall Gaudreau dangling out there?
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Gaudreau can’t protect the puck like that - the last Flame that could hold onto it that deliberately was Huselius (that I can think of).
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11-01-2020, 04:05 PM
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#315
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First Line Centre
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People make it sound like his puck protection was something out of this world. I like Valamaki is a prospect and potential upside - but nothing in that video stands out. It was a nice play...happens all the time by a ton of players.
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11-01-2020, 04:55 PM
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#316
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
Gaudreau can’t protect the puck like that - the last Flame that could hold onto it that deliberately was Huselius (that I can think of).
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Come on.
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that yes, if he were playing in Liiga, Gaudreau could protect the puck better than that. He does so in the NHL on a nightly basis.
Let's not get silly with the hype.
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11-02-2020, 11:06 AM
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#317
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by AC
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Is that a beer league team they're playing against? My goodness that is some atrocious hockey on their part.
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11-02-2020, 11:52 AM
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#318
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by jayswin
Is that a beer league team they're playing against? My goodness that is some atrocious hockey on their part.
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Nope. It is a good league.
Valimaki is just immensely skilled.
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11-02-2020, 12:40 PM
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#319
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Come on.
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that yes, if he were playing in Liiga, Gaudreau could protect the puck better than that. He does so in the NHL on a nightly basis.
Let's not get silly with the hype.
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To clarify, I’m speaking about the way JV is protecting the puck at low speed - Of course Johnny can protect the puck.
What Gaudreau can’t do is box players out the way I’m seeing in these videos.
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11-03-2020, 01:34 PM
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#320
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#1 Goaltender
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Interesting comments from Ward today regarding a lefty playing the right side this season.
Said Valimaki is doing that now in Finland so he’s a candidate. Really liked Mackey during the pause and thinks he could slide over. Also mentioned Kylington.
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