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Old 06-24-2019, 03:02 PM   #261
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You mean sending a cross for Sinclair to head in all game wasn't a good plan?
Haha! I was going to post this.

"Defend Sinclair because the rest of them just punt it into Row Z...."

Its like....Junior High School. Sweden were far and away the better team and if not for some firedrill defending and luck this game would have been out of hand.

The better team won, so I cant complain. It sucks and Sinclair deserved better.
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Old 06-24-2019, 03:04 PM   #262
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Yah I don't know enough about the roster to really comment but it seems weird to have your 64' sub taking the kicks seems really odd.
Her (lack of) height might have something do with it. In a situation where you're sticking everyone in the box, have the one who won't win a header deliver the ball.
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Old 06-24-2019, 03:12 PM   #263
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Wow, the coach said they don’t have a designated taker. I really like Beckie, she’s made some pressure PKs for club and country in the past and don’t mind her taking the kick as much as everyone else. Beckie will bounce back and be leading this team for years to come.

But if that’s the case that they don’t have a designated taker then I wonder why Sinclair didn’t want it.

Edit: Beckie said Sinclair asked her if she wanted to take it. In my mind that ends the discussion. You can’t have a player taking a penalty that doesn’t want it

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Old 06-24-2019, 03:18 PM   #264
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Her (lack of) height might have something do with it. In a situation where you're sticking everyone in the box, have the one who won't win a header deliver the ball.
I can get behind that, but just sort of think you always have those who are masterful at putting the ball in - and they likely would be in your starting 11. Like I said though, I don't know the roster well so maybe Leon is that person, and her balls weren't bad either.

Maybe i'm just nitpicking because they should have at least taken it to extra time and I am upset
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Old 06-24-2019, 03:23 PM   #265
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Wow, the coach said they don’t have a designated taker. I really like Beckie, she’s made some pressure PKs for club and country in the past and don’t mind her taking the kick as much as everyone else. Beckie will bounce back and be leading this team for years to come.

But if that’s the case that they don’t have a designated taker then I wonder why Sinclair didn’t want it.

Edit: Beckie said Sinclair asked her if she wanted to take it. In my mind that ends the discussion. You can’t have a player taking a penalty that doesn’t want it
Yeah.

Sinclair maybe worried since was the team and goalie she missed against in the past.

Damn - feel bad for them as I don't feel like they had their best game today and it was still right there for the taking.
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:26 PM   #266
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Just saw that penalty kick. I don’t blame the kicker, I would say that the coach “choked”. Sinclair had to be the one taking that, it turned out to be a very weak kick and was easily saved.

Herdman would never have allowed that failure.
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:40 PM   #267
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Herdman's team missed a penalty yesterday too
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:59 PM   #268
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Herdman's team missed a penalty yesterday too
Did they have the greatest goal scorer of all time in the sport on their roster?
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That’s not on the coach.

Sinclair was on the pitch and nobody was taking that ball from her if she wanted it. She’s the captain, she’s the best player this country has ever seen (Men or Women), and she is chasing the record of greatest international goal scorer of all time.

She needed to grab that ball, smash it into the roof and the net, and carry on in her usual dominating fashion.

Coach probably was as shocked as the rest of us when Beckie stepped up to take that, but if that’s Sinclair’s decision on the pitch the coach can’t really force Sinclair to take it at that point.

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I agree that Sinclair prolly should have taken that, but I think some credit needs to be given to the keeper...that was a hell of a save, as the kick would have almost been side netting. Generally if you can hit side netting, it's a goal. Deception is a big part of a PK, but the placement of that shot was really good. I think it's a little overblown, but I seem to be on an island here.
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Very good save, but it's not a great penalty. If you're going to leave it at the perfect saveable height, then it absolutely has to be side netting or you're leaving the keeper with a good chance to get to it.
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Coach has to make the call...since when do the players make these kinda decisions? Why even have a coach? Dropped to 3 back got scored on. Subbed out a defender for a defender in the final minutes.

Coach blew it.
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It was merely an ok save that looked better then it was. Talk to any soccer goalie, she got two hands on it, they will tell you that they can reach much further with one hand then two. It’s even possible that she could have stepped over and caught it. It was also hit at a good height to stop.

The coach indicated that they did not have kickers designated, that’s a problem. It leads to thinking, too much thinking leads to choking. Very much like a putt in golf. It’s a very basic easy decision to say to a team: Sinclair takes the kick. Instead he left the team with an element of doubt about something they should have known.
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It was merely an ok save that looked better then it was. Talk to any soccer goalie, she got two hands on it, they will tell you that they can reach much further with one hand then two. It’s even possible that she could have stepped over and caught it. It was also hit at a good height to stop.
Really? You honestly believe that?

It wasn't a bad penalty, it wasn't a perfect penalty. I would put it in the very good save category before trying to place fault with the kicker.
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Really? You honestly believe that?

It wasn't a bad penalty, it wasn't a perfect penalty. I would put it in the very good save category before trying to place fault with the kicker.
A two handed dive save is a “show save”, if you can get two hands on it you can save it without a dive. It’s always been the case.

Go out to the park and try it.
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A two handed dive save is a “show save”, if you can get two hands on it you can save it without a dive. It’s always been the case.

Go out to the park and try it.
No.
No it is not.
Silly goalies. Diving on penalties when they could just take a step and catch everything.
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Quotes not working, but @ Flamenspiel:

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A two handed dive save is a “show save”, if you can get two hands on it you can save it without a dive. It’s always been the case.

Go out to the park and try it.
You said "ask any goalkeeper". Well, I have played AMSL and University level both as a defender and a keeper, and I can say that is a great save. No, you ideally don't want to have it at that height, but any time you hit a ball at a good pace that is near side-netting, you're going to score more often than not.

A two-handed save doesn't cover as much ground as a one-handed, but by no means does that make it a "show-save". There is ZERO chance any goalie in the world, man or woman, could have simply "moved over" and grabbed that as you had eluded.

I do think the coach needs to take some blame here. This should be his call. Any important game I've ever played in, we all look at the coach if there's ever any doubt, though most of the time, you have your go-to guy.
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Japan go out to that silly handball rule.
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I think everything is a foul and hate Japan and I think that was a garbage handball call.


Two feet away, struck hard, arms by her side.
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It's the correct call.
It's a silly rule.
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