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View Poll Results: Pick the best coach from the following list
Brian Sutter 6 5.08%
Brent Sutter 5 4.24%
Dave King 51 43.22%
Al MacNeill 30 25.42%
Mike Keenan 14 11.86%
Pierre Page 0 0%
Glen Gulutzan 1 0.85%
Doug Risebrough 0 0%
Greg Gilbert 0 0%
Bill Peters 8 6.78%
Jim Playfair 0 0%
Don Hay 1 0.85%
Geoff Ward 2 1.69%
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Old 07-18-2020, 11:11 AM   #1
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1. Darryl Sutter
2. Bob Johnson
3. Terry Crisp
4. Bob Hartley
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Old 07-18-2020, 11:38 AM   #2
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After Johnson,Sutter and Crisp, MacNeil took the Flames the farthest in the playoffs
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Old 07-18-2020, 11:41 AM   #3
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Brent should get some love. That man went through some crap. Never seen a dude trash a trash can in hallway before.
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It's pretty sad that with this many names still left on the list, only one led the team to any playoff round victories.

Allister Wences MacNeil.
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Old 07-18-2020, 11:46 AM   #5
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Not today. But at some point Greg Gilbert is going to get voted in solely for keeping Berube out at the end of that Ducks game.
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Not today. But at some point Greg Gilbert is going to get voted in solely for keeping Berube out at the end of that Ducks game.
I'm interested to see which GG gets voted in first
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Old 07-18-2020, 01:18 PM   #7
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I almost voted Gulutzan just to see the reaction.
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Old 07-18-2020, 01:51 PM   #8
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Brent should get some love. That man went through some crap. Never seen a dude trash a trash can in hallway before.
That was the highlight of his time here, for me.

He should make top 10 for sure
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Old 07-18-2020, 01:53 PM   #9
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I'm most curious now to see where Ward places in this. Very short tenure so far, but getting some pretty good performance coming out a bit of a #### show. His place in the history of the Flames is his and the team's to claim in the month of August. A truly unique situation.
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A little surprised to see King running away with this round. King had a lot of desirable qualities. Posied, professional, great with the media and of course the goodwill of having coached the national team for so long.

But if a coaches job is to get a team to be more than the sum of its parts, his record is not that impressive. Zero for three in the playoffs and had players like Macinnis, Suter, Vernon, Nieuwendyk, Roberts, Fleury, Roberts, Recihel, Titov.

As Bingo pointed out he maybe was unlucky in some of the game 7's but don't know how you factor that in. Hell if Smyl scores on Vernon in 1989, Crisp is going down as one of the very worst coaches in franchise history.

Think I'll go Macneil. I still think Brian Sutter was a good coach here but hard to substantiate that with any data.

To give King credit, he put together three strong regular seasons in a row.
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Not today. But at some point Greg Gilbert is going to get voted in solely for keeping Berube out at the end of that Ducks game.
Sadly, Gulutzan was better than Gilbert.
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Brent should get some love. That man went through some crap. Never seen a dude trash a trash can in hallway before.
Pierre Page was famous for trashing his office door.
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Old 07-18-2020, 03:02 PM   #13
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I’m going to find it tough voting for Bill Peters any time soon. I see he has already garnered a few votes. Yes, the team did really well under him in the regular season coming out as the top team in the west, but the Akim Aliu situation is more than enough to weigh against that.
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A little surprised to see King running away with this round. King had a lot of desirable qualities. Posied, professional, great with the media and of course the goodwill of having coached the national team for so long.

But if a coaches job is to get a team to be more than the sum of its parts, his record is not that impressive. Zero for three in the playoffs and had players like Macinnis, Suter, Vernon, Nieuwendyk, Roberts, Fleury, Roberts, Recihel, Titov.

As Bingo pointed out he maybe was unlucky in some of the game 7's but don't know how you factor that in. Hell if Smyl scores on Vernon in 1989, Crisp is going down as one of the very worst coaches in franchise history.

Think I'll go Macneil. I still think Brian Sutter was a good coach here but hard to substantiate that with any data.

To give King credit, he put together three strong regular seasons in a row.
You make your luck. King was a decent development coach but couldn’t connect with professionals. He played a bland, conservative style of hockey which he was used to playing with mediocre talent on the national team. He had some studs on this team and we should have performed better (and probably would have with a coach that was used to working with professionals). He played bloody Dan Keczmer as a F - yes, that dan keczmer!

Went with Brian Sutter on this one. Had he been coach during the King era we would have gone further. Got the best he could out of the kids. And that’s even factoring in that awful tan sports jacket he used to wear. That was hard on the eyes.

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I’m going to find it tough voting for Bill Peters any time soon. I see he has already garnered a few votes. Yes, the team did really well under him in the regular season coming out as the top team in the west, but the Akim Aliu situation is more than enough to weigh against that.
Plus the team was extremely out-coached in the playoffs by Colorado.
Then early on this year Peters was making a lot of questionable decisions.

The Flames made it to the conference finals with MacNeill. Tough to justify voting Peters of MacNeil imo.

Under King, the Flames led the division twice, but again, no playoff success.
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Old 07-18-2020, 09:26 PM   #16
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Why the love for King? Getting unlucky in one playoff series is understandable. Getting unlucky in 3 is a pattern.

Had to go with McNeil. Best playoff record remaining and that time he replaced Gilbert was pretty amazing.
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