[PGT] Capitals 5, Flames 3

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Stauner

Team is very stale and unimaginative.

I think we made a huge mistake in the off season not making a major shake up. Sticking with a core that got embarrased last year just isnt working

Well given the regular season they had Treliving wanted to give them another chance but if they don't get things together there's little doubt that a major shakeup will happen in the offseason. The team badly needs an upgrade at center in the top 6 which won't be easy to address.

[bubbsy]

First line remains out of sync, 5 on 5 at least. It's nice to see Monahan throw his weight around suddenly, but he's converted to a pure grinder it seems. Gaudreau is frustrating to watch. Feels like teams have caught on and adjusted how to defend him. He doesn't look all that electric so far.

Get Brodie back with gio, Andersson has made some really weird plays tge past 2 games resulting in the puck in their net (brutal neutral zone face off pinch in Anaheim then watching the puck go in off him tonight).

Hanafin had a really solid start individually this year, but he looks like he and hamonic are good for one gaff every period or 2.

I have a serious love/hate thing with mangiapane. Guy is either scoring or falling all over the ice.

Finally, talbot comes into the 2nd period dozing, costs the flames 2 goals. Welcome back Rittich.

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well I think given the regular season they had Treliving wanted to give them one more chance but if they don't get things together there's little doubt that a major shakeup will be on the horizon. The team badly needs an upgrade at center in the top 6 which won't be easy to address.

Couturier for JG

Who says no?

[cannon7]

Lindholm should be our #1 C.

Monahan, meet sun.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

Chucky has been aside from one game almost our worst top 5 player (not gonna lump the 6th guys into that)

I see him constantly setting guys up who can't finish

[MisterJoji]

Goddamn. The crying over the missed Kadri and Zucker trades is ridiculous. It didn’t happen, we don’t need to talk about it after EVERY LOSS.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by dino7c

we don't even know what the deal/contract would have been...hard to say. Have to make at least 10M of room and Vegas has one more point than Calgary.

Do need to upgrade the top six though...poor Chucky

I cant help but feel it would give us two legit scoring lines though. I'm not mad that certain players have nights off on the top line it happens to all teams but the Flames really need a strong secondary threat for when that happens.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Frolik, Jankowski, Mangiapane, Lucic, Reider are all basically 4th line plugs they could replace with Stockton players and it wouldn't matter.

They need to trade a dman for scoring.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Flames started 5-5-1 last year

Wonder how that turned out?

Brutal since the all star break followed by a beat down in the first round.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

Couturier for JG

Who says no?

lol this guy

[WhiteTiger]

Ah, well. They played well against a tough opponent, and there were 2 weird goals in the game against, not for this time.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

This team is so offensively challenged they have to scratch and claw for every goal so spotting the opposition an unearned two goal lead is simply too much to overcome. There's no margins for error when your opponents are opportunistic and you are not. It seems like everything has to go right for this team to win a game and IMO that's telling of a team that just isn't good enough.

This isn't going to be popular but I'm kind starting to believe Monahan isn't the answer at 1st line center. This guy just doesn't move the needle enough. It seems like the first line has been essentially Gaudreau, Lindholm, and passenger.

Gaudreau should not get a pass. He has been 5v 5 ...200 feet awful.

[Infinit47]

Huge mistake by Peters in playing Talbot, huge. And not because of the goals, but because Rittich matches up way better against Washington. Even excluding Talbot gifting a goal by mishandling the puck, the real issue is there were many, many times with soft cross ice dump ins where Rittich would have simply cut the puck off before it got to the corner and chipped it up ice and out of danger. Talbot was too afraid to do this and it lead to significant zone time for Washington.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

This team is so offensively challenged they have to scratch and claw for every goal so spotting the opposition an unearned two goal lead is simply too much to overcome. There's no margins for error when your opponents are opportunistic and you are not. It seems like everything has to go right for this team to win a game and IMO that's telling of a team that just isn't good enough.

This isn't going to be popular but I'm kind starting to believe Monahan isn't the answer at 1st line center. This guy just doesn't move the needle enough. It seems like the first line has been essentially Gaudreau, Lindholm, and passenger.

I have the opposite reaction. Gaudreau has been ineffective, and I would make a Tkachuk-Monahan-Bennett first line, as three players that have been effective.
Second line of Gaudreau-Lindholm-Whomever.
Let the opposition decide who they think is the bigger threat.

[Ferarri]

Very stale and unimaginative is bang on. Seems like we have no creativity and play very passive. Team needs a change to its DNA and hopefully they can figure out their identity. Still to early to panic but there are some alarming signs with this group.

[shadowlord]

I want to see those top 2 lines broken up for a good stretch of games.

Johnny + Mony
Tkachuk + Lindholm
Backlund + Frolik

Even if you reunite the top line later on, at least you're developing some chemistry and finding other combos that might work in case you need to mix things up in a playoff series.

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[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

Couturier for JG

Who says no?

Maybe. I would rather keep Gaudreau and move Monahan but you aren't going to get Couturier for Monahan.

[Saqe]

That was a good effort considering the Caps are a recent cup champ.

[browna]

Bad bounces tonight, but again, a lack of secondary 5 on 5 scoring, and specifically having a 2nd scoring line, is to blame.

BT can’t build all he has to have this window, to have a patchwork second scoring line which is useless with one bad winger and a off and on centerman. After last years playoffs and the two documented attempts to change that second line at the deadline or in the offseason, he’s aware it’s a bad set up that needs addressing.

When teams such as tonight have 2 good shut down lines, they run those lines out against our top line and dare the Flames to beat them with anything other than the top line.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by timbit

Gaudreau should not get a pass. He has been 5v 5 ...200 feet awful.

He's too easy to defend. There's no way this team constructed with him as the offensive focal point goes anywhere.