[Rumour] Oilers' first-rounder, young forward, a goaltender "all likely in play" for help at F

[Love]

I hope they trade it and it wins a lottery slot

[TheIronMaiden]

If they are trading their first it'll be for someone with term that can fit in their cap situation.

My guess is it'll be something like

1st + Puljujarvi for Phil Kessel 1M retained

[Oling_Roachinen]

Can you imagine having a 31 year old Kris Russell on your top pairing and your team is trying to trade a 1st rounder, young forward and a goaltender not for defensive help but for help up front...because it's arguably worst.

[LWcrowfoot]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Oilers miss the playoffs AND I don't have to worry about them winning the 1st overall pick?

Sign me up.

They've picked first overall four times in six years, including nabbing one of the best talents of our generation. Yet here we are. I worry more about a Shark attack in the Bow River than where and who the Oilers pick.

[P-Rugby]

saw a Oilers fan propose Nurse for Tarasenko straight up... they're super delusional.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by P-Rugby

saw a Oilers fan propose Nurse for Tarasenko straight up... they're super delusional.

One for one? No way. That never happens that a superstar elite forward gets traded one for one for a #4 defenseman.

If they want to lose games 9-4, go to town.

1st, Nurse, and Koskinen for UFA Tarasenko would be amazing.

Then they miss the playoffs in 9th. Talbot and Tarasenko walk in UFA. St. Louis wins the lottery.

[Hockeyguy15]

Too bad we can't pry that first round pick out of them. It would be the ultimate kick in the pants for them if we got their pick and won the lotto.

[Ozy_Flame]

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by LWcrowfoot

They've picked first overall four times in six years, including nabbing one of the best talents of our generation. Yet here we are. I worry more about a Shark attack in the Bow River than where and who the Oilers pick.

I just don't want to see another young man's life pass before his eyes re: 2015 draft lottery special.

[GreenLantern2814]

Draisaitl + Spooner for Schenn + Bouwmeester.

Not a lot you can do with 50 grand (lawl) in cap space. Bo even at 35 is better than every defenseman on the roster. Plus, this trade has the added benefit of guaranteeing the Oilers miss the playoffs, given the number of high-stakes games they're about to play and the presence of Jay Bouwmeester.

[SuperMatt18]

This is my favorite part:

2018: Bouchard
2017: Yamamoto
2016: Puljujarvi
2015: McDavid
2014: Draisaitl
2013: Nurse
2012: Yakupov
2011: RNH
2010: Hall
2009: Pajaarvi

Over the last 10 years they have used 8/10 first round picks on forwards. Of those 8 first round picks, 4 were 1st overall picks used on forwards, and 7 of them were forwards taken in the top 10.

Even with all that being considered they are still looking for forwards (and defense) for that matter. It's crazy.

What non-playoff team has forwards they would be willing to move?

Philly: Voracek...maybe they try to get out of the rest of that contract.
Ottawa: Stone and Duchene...I'd hate for Stone to be up in Edmonton.
Detroit: Nyquist...Probably not high profile enough for Chiarelli.
Rangers: Hayes, Zibanejad, Kreider...could see something done here.
Blackhawks: Saad, Anisimov...maybe Hawks cut some cap.

Will be interesting to see what desperation move they make here.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Can you imagine having a 31 year old Kris Russell on your top pairing and your team is trying to trade a 1st rounder, young forward and a goaltender not for defensive help but for help up front...because it's arguably worst.

This has long been the issue with the oilers. They have emphasized drafting skilled forwards, with minimal success at that. So they have invested in drafting a lot of dmen in later rounds. Great, good on them.

They just fail to actually set up a successful development path to the nhl. You draft bear, jones, Bouchard, etc. There has to be patience, that a dman contributing at the nhl is likely at the draft+4 year timeframe. That also requires good veterans to leaen from on the defensive group. Sekera and Russell are their veteran dmen, that aren't great players to begin with.

So, the oilers are biasing towards filling their forward issues, as they feel with Bouchard, jones, bear, they have their weak defence covered in the future. It's a flawed approach, but then again, there is a reason E = nG.

[CanadaMatt]

None of those players were ‘off the board’ picks. Have to start looking at the development process for these young players. Doesn’t seem to be working as they can’t all be busts, can they?

[mikephoen]

Is Sekara offically done for the year? The only cap space at all that the oilers have is his LTIR space. If he comes back they aren't even cap compliant now. How can they trade for anyone?

[dash_pinched]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1084888421577809921

[Toonage]

Sorry Mr. Staples. NTC likely includes your Oilers.

[Bunk]

Every trade they make has resulted in them getting worse, so bring it on!

[CaptainCrunch]

This decision isn't coming from Chia, this is Katz all the way.


Are the Oilers having revenue problems and need the playoff revenue?


Are they worried about season ticket sales and box renewals for next year?


Does two games of playoff revenue make any kind of difference?

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by dash_pinched

https://twitter.com/user/status/1084888421577809921

I can seriously see Chiarelly do a RNH for Simmonds trade, one for one, or a first round pick. Oilers fans should be worried, it does not look like he will be fired until at least the end of the year. Nothing better than a desperate Chia.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

This is my favorite part:

2018: Bouchard
2017: Yamamoto
2016: Puljujarvi
2015: McDavid
2014: Draisaitl
2013: Nurse
2012: Yakupov
2011: RNH
2010: Hall
2009: Pajaarvi

Over the last 10 years they have used 8/10 first round picks on forwards. Of those 8 first round picks, 4 were 1st overall picks used on forwards, and 7 of them were forwards taken in the top 10.

Even with all that being considered they are still looking for forwards (and defense) for that matter. It's crazy.

Just for fun, let's see who the Oilers would have if they simply took the next drafted defenseman instead of the people they took.

2017: Yamamoto becomes Pierre-Olivier Joseph. What a shocker, the Phoenix Jets don't know what they're doing. Henri Jokiharju was the only other D taken before the end of the first round, and though he's looking like a good find in Chicago, Edmonton's not good enough at development for him to really help the Oilers.

2016: Jesse Puljujarvi becomes Olli Juolevi, who has also yet to play an NHL game. I resent learning how to spell and pronounce Puljujarvi and Juolevi before they proved they were worth knowing. So far, this simulation is not making the Oilers better. Edmonton also left Sergachev, Charlie McAvoy and Jake Bean on the table.

2015: Connor McDavid. Yeah, but they could've had Hanifin, and Hanifin's a ####in' stud.

2014: Leon Draisaitl. "We expect Leon to make the team and we expect him to be the #2C" said Craig MacTavish on TSN 90 seconds after Daryl Katz's kid handed Draisaitl a shirt. The person I really feel for is Haydn Fleury, who despite only playing 2 NHL games to this point, would probably be in line for a 6x6 by now. The 2008 draft might be the best defenseman draft in 20 years; nobody's saying that about 2014.

2013: HEY A DEFENSEMAN! Darnell Nurse goes 7th overall, and there's a strong case to be made that even this one is a #### up. Ristolainen went right after Nurse to the Sabres, but just six picks later, Joshua Morrissey goes to the Jets. Nice scouting.

2012: After spending six months Failing for Nail, the Oilers were proud to select their cross to bear. In the wake of this disastrous selection, it would leak out that the brass wanted Ryan Murray #1, and only after Nail played video games with Daryl Katz's child did the Oilers decide to make the Tsar Bomba of awful 1st overall selections. Important to note, even years after the fact, nobody has attempted to say they lobbied hard for Morgan Reilly or Hamphus Lindholm, or even Matthew Dumba. Never stop drafting based exclusively on the Hockey News' pre-draft rankings, Edmonton.

2011: To think: if Edmonton doesn't draft the Nuge 1st overall here, they could've avoided traded Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson some years later, since that's the first available D they could have picked. Fear not, for it was in this draft they managed to secure the services of lynchpin defenseman Oscar Klefbom, a man so valuable that his absence turns a team with Connor McDavid into an ECHL squad.

2010: Hall. Speaking of the Fall for Hall, nobody fell further than the actual best D in this 1st round, Cam Fowler. In what was surely linguistic destiny, Fowler ended up going to the Ducks at 11, after fools in Florida and New York determined Erik Gudbranson and Dylan McIlrath were better players.

2009: Paajarvi. Even though OEL and Hedman had been taken earlier, the Oilers still could've had Ryan Ellis.

So, giving them the absolute benefit of the doubt, the Oilers could have:

Ellis
Ristolainen/Morrissey
Lindholm/Reilly/Dumba
Sergachev/McAvoy

PLUS if they have even three of those four, they don't make the stupid Griffin Reinhart trade, and draft Matthew Barzal.

What a cavalcade of buffoons.