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Old 11-06-2018, 02:12 PM   #2101
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The 2013 lockout didn't need compliance buyouts as much as 2005, but I guess they were justified because the players' share of HRR wa
I don't know if there are likely to be any changes in the next CBA that will justify offering compliance buyouts. The players are unlikely to want them again because although the money doesn't count against the cap, it still counts as part of the players' share of revenue.

Yeah but the buyouts are for 2/3s of the total value of the contracts.

So if the owners buy out 100 million dollars worth of contracts at 66 million that frees up 33 million to be spent on new contracts plus more capspace doesn't it?


That benefits the majority of the player base and seeing as how 18 teams used compliance buyouts last time around the majority of teams would likely be alright with it this time as well.

I'm not sure what other justification they need beyond both sides agreeing to buyouts. If agreement is all the justification required, I see compliance buyouts as a probable outcome.
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Old 11-06-2018, 02:19 PM   #2102
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Lucic isn't "doesn't belong in the NHL" bad. But that contract is horrific, I don't even mean this season. I mean the four seasons after this one.
No. He actually is THAT bad now. He truly is. He's just not NHL calibre anymore at all.

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Old 11-06-2018, 02:22 PM   #2103
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Yeah but the buyouts are for 2/3s of the total value of the contracts.

So if the owners buy out 100 million dollars worth of contracts at 66 million that frees up 33 million to be spent on new contracts plus more capspace doesn't it?


That benefits the majority of the player base and seeing as how 18 teams used compliance buyouts last time around the majority of teams would likely be alright with it this time as well.

I'm not sure what other justification they need beyond both sides agreeing to buyouts. If agreement is all the justification required, I see compliance buyouts as a probable outcome.
I don't think players think that way. They don't want anyone to be bought out. They don't think about how one player being bought out lets another player sign for more. They think about how the owners get out of a contract they signed, for less money.
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Old 11-06-2018, 02:26 PM   #2104
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Well it's not like he's been a liability this season. He's playing fairly well and getting a grade A scoring chance nearly every game.

That's not worth $6 million of course.

If his hands don't come back I would expect he could still land a Reaves level contract.
Yes he has. The game has passed him by. He has no speed and the rest of his 'soft skills' he used to have are basically gone too.

Okay, he can still hit people and he can definitely fight, but that's all he's really got going for him now.

Other that that, he's got nothing left to give at an NHL level.

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Old 11-06-2018, 02:31 PM   #2105
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I don't think players think that way. They don't want anyone to be bought out. They don't think about how one player being bought out lets another player sign for more. They think about how the owners get out of a contract they signed, for less money.
https://thehockeynews.com/news/artic...posal-to-nhlpa

The players were the ones to ask for them last time around according to this article.
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Old 11-06-2018, 02:39 PM   #2106
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Yes he has. The game has passed him by. He has no speed and the rest of his 'soft skills' he used to have are basically gone too.

Okay, he can still hit people and he can definitely fight, but that's all he's really got going for him now.

Other that that, he's got nothing left to give at an NHL level.
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Ryan Strome has 0 points in 14 games this season. Strome once scored 50 points as a sophomore.
He also received a pay raise before the season, so it's all in line with the Oilers business model.
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Old 11-06-2018, 05:50 PM   #2108
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Oilers are going to get worked tonight.
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:13 PM   #2109
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Lucic should be suspended for what he did tonight, but a more fitting punishment to the Oilers would be to increase his icetime.
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:19 PM   #2110
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& they did.
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2 losses in a row now for the McDavid/Talbot show. So...Cup parade cancelled again?
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:23 PM   #2112
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2 losses in a row now for the McDavid/Talbot show. So...Cup parade cancelled again?
It's moved to Robson Street because the Canucks managed to take the powerhouse Wings to a shootout.
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:25 PM   #2113
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Oilers defense is atrocious. Keystone Cops all night. Russell a -4. Nurse a -2. Klefbom playing Pronger minutes. What a mess on the back end.

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Old 11-06-2018, 08:36 PM   #2114
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Lucic should be suspended for what he did tonight, but a more fitting punishment to the Oilers would be to increase his icetime.
Exactly, a suspension is bonus to them.


https://twitter.com/user/status/1060004289081458693

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Too bad, Lucic will be out for a while. That’s not a 1 gamer...
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Old 11-06-2018, 09:10 PM   #2116
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Ryan Strome has 0 points in 14 games this season. Strome once scored 50 points as a sophomore.
Good job. You poked the bear.
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Woke the sleeping giant that is Strome.
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Old 11-06-2018, 09:16 PM   #2118
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Too bad, Lucic will be out for a while. That’s not a 1 gamer...
3 games or less please, need him back in the lineup for the Flames.
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Old 11-06-2018, 09:36 PM   #2119
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Lucic should be suspended for what he did tonight, but a more fitting punishment to the Oilers would be to increase his icetime.
Absolutely, that was cheap and dirty. Better be a suspension.

Is that the new role he has to excel that they're talking about? Taking misconducts.
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Old 11-06-2018, 09:36 PM   #2120
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Didn't look that bad, think Lucic was just shaking his hand, couldn't hear what he was telling him, and that jerk Stamkos, was taunting poor Connor.
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