06-25-2016, 09:17 AM
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#41
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Every other year you use a 2nd rounder to pick a goaltender?
I like it
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06-25-2016, 09:18 AM
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#42
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ
Oh this is another one of those moments where we're grading draft picks that haven't played a game in the NHL yet? OK got it.
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No kidding. "I've never heard this kid's name before right now he is a bad pick! The Flames scouts should've consulted me first, I woulda set them straight!"
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06-25-2016, 09:22 AM
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#43
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ
Oh this is another one of those moments where we're grading draft picks that haven't played a game in the NHL yet? OK got it.
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Players get rated/criticized all the time. Before they're drafted, when they're drafted, and after they're drafted. That's what discussion forums are for
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06-25-2016, 09:23 AM
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#44
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by albertGQ
Players get rated/criticized all the time. Before they're drafted, when they're drafted, and after they're drafted. That's what discussion forums are for
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You're not wrong but informed ratings and criticisms are so much more helpful.
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06-25-2016, 09:27 AM
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#45
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
You're not wrong but informed ratings and criticisms are so much more helpful.
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Exactly. And taking a look at my THN magazine, he was the 4th ranked goalie. And TSN had him below Gustavsson who was still on the board. I just questioned picking him first like in 2014. I'll trust the scouts. I have no strong feelings either way.
There will be more rankings this summer when Bingo does his Flames prospect rankings. Still too early as most haven't played in the NHL yet? Nope. It's a fun exercise and promotes discussion. And that's what we all want when we visit forums
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06-25-2016, 09:35 AM
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#46
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: PL13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
Seriously? 54 is too early for a goalie?
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To go off the board for one... yup.
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06-25-2016, 09:36 AM
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#47
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Conroy4Mayor
To go off the board for one... yup.
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Somehow I don't think Flames went off their board.
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06-25-2016, 09:36 AM
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#48
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Outstanding pick, watching him all year I was very impressed with him. You can never have too many London Knights.
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06-25-2016, 09:37 AM
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#49
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Can't stand using second rounders on a goalie.
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06-25-2016, 09:39 AM
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#50
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#1 Goaltender
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Here is a list of every goalie from 1991 to now drafted between 31 and 60 that has become the starting goalie on the team that drafted them: Ondej Pavelec, Jose Theodore, Corey Crawford and Chris Osgood.
The odds of a goalie you draft becoming a starter are terrible in every round, but they're about the same in the late rounds as they are in the 2nd, so why waste one on a goalie.
I'll hope for the best on this guy of course, but the odds are really, really long.
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06-25-2016, 09:42 AM
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#51
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Montreal
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Very probable Team USA goalie at WJC
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06-25-2016, 09:42 AM
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#52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Conroy4Mayor
To go off the board for one... yup.
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There is no board.
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06-25-2016, 09:43 AM
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#53
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Join Date: May 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Conroy4Mayor
To go off the board for one... yup.
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What board?
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06-25-2016, 09:43 AM
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#54
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Parsons is also very athletic. Could be an insurance policy if they shrink the goalie equipment to the point where being a giant lug who just covers the net isn't as helpful.
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06-25-2016, 09:45 AM
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#55
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikephoen
Here is a list of every goalie from 1991 to now drafted between 31 and 60 that has become the starting goalie on the team that drafted them: Ondej Pavelec, Jose Theodore, Corey Crawford and Chris Osgood.
The odds of a goalie you draft becoming a starter are terrible in every round, but they're about the same in the late rounds as they are in the 2nd, so why waste one on a goalie.
I'll hope for the best on this guy of course, but the odds are really, really long.
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Odds are really long regardless of what position you take, which is why you take the BPA. Flames felt he was the BPA in this spot and IMO they've earned the benefit of the doubt over the last few years.
I'll wait to see how he develops before judging this pick.
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06-25-2016, 09:45 AM
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#56
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Franchise Player
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With another 2nd just behind I don't mind taking a goalie. Just gotta keep picking them and hope one emerges as a star.
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Trust the snake.
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06-25-2016, 09:45 AM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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I would have preferred the Flames pick no goalies this draft, but obviously they want to create a strong pipeline of goalies in their system. Can't really complain about Parsons, he seems like a solid choice.
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06-25-2016, 09:49 AM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
There is no board.
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There is a board.
Even if you ranked Gaudreau has the best player in his draft class you wouldn't draft him number one because he'd be available in the 2nd or 3rd round for sure.
So when people say go off board they are actually saying would have been available with a later pick. Or worth risking he would have been available with a later pick.
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06-25-2016, 09:51 AM
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#59
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There is no board.
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06-25-2016, 09:58 AM
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#60
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Super-Rye
Odds are really long regardless of what position you take, which is why you take the BPA. Flames felt he was the BPA in this spot and IMO they've earned the benefit of the doubt over the last few years.
I'll wait to see how he develops before judging this pick.
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It's something like 25% chance for position players taken in the 2nd round to play 300 games in the NHL. The goalie odds are way lower, somewhere under 10%. And if you look at the list I provided, even the ones that made it aren't very exciting.
Hopefully this guy is the 1 in 10 long shot.
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