09-30-2022, 04:53 PM
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#781
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
It's going to be mandatory for players to participate in future investigations. Doesn't sounds too promising.
Why did the women allow that Smith to present them with medals with big smiles? Issue a statement after that he should step down. Seems like a odd way to protest.
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Yes that really bothered me. I would have refused him giving me that medal!
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09-30-2022, 05:44 PM
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#782
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
It's going to be mandatory for players to participate in future investigations. Doesn't sounds too promising.
Why did the women allow that Smith to present them with medals with big smiles? Issue a statement after that he should step down. Seems like a odd way to protest.
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Maybe because its bull#### to put the expectation for remedy on their shoulders?
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09-30-2022, 05:45 PM
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#783
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Cole436
It feels really easy to pinpoint who was or wasn’t involved based on those statements. Based on Dube’s statement it doesn’t feel positive at all.
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What's confounding me about this is that the Flames gave him an A in a preseason game and seem to be sticking by him completely. So on one hand he looks like he is an involved party and yet his team, who you think would know the truth, seems to be saying he wasn't.
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09-30-2022, 05:48 PM
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#784
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chedder
What's confounding me about this is that the Flames gave him an A in a preseason game and seem to be sticking by him completely. So on one hand he looks like he is an involved party and yet his team, who you think would know the truth, seems to be saying he wasn't.
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Why would the flames know the truth?
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09-30-2022, 05:52 PM
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#785
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Why would the flames know the truth?
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Guaranteed many on the 'inside' know exactly who the 8 are.
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09-30-2022, 05:54 PM
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#786
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Why would the flames know the truth?
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I won’t speak for the truth, how would any of us know, but I expect everyone on the team has heard Dube’s side of the story.
Dube has said multiple times, “I wish I could talk about it”. That comment is directed at the media & public.
But it’d be naive to think he hasn’t done just that within the room & organization.
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09-30-2022, 06:23 PM
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#787
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Oh I thought you meant the truth. Not his side of the story or the 8 names. Both of which I assume are widely known in hockey circles.
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10-03-2022, 08:04 AM
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#788
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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10-03-2022, 08:30 AM
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#789
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
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So gross. Obviously hockey culture is broken entirely when you need a fund to pay people off to keep them quiet about these things. When you have two funds though? Probably time to burn it to the ground and start fresh.
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10-03-2022, 08:45 AM
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#790
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slava
So gross. Obviously hockey culture is broken entirely when you need a fund to pay people off to keep them quiet about these things. When you have two funds though? Probably time to burn it to the ground and start fresh.
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Westhead is doing God’s work
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10-03-2022, 08:53 AM
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#791
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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at what point do these become potentially financial crimes as well?
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10-03-2022, 08:56 AM
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#792
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Franchise Player
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How does Edmonton continue to employ Bob Nicholson?
Bill Peters was forced to step down for a racist tirade decades ago and rightfully so, I don't see how this is any different.
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10-03-2022, 08:59 AM
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#793
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary Satellite Community
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
How does Edmonton continue to employ Bob Nicholson?
Bill Peters was forced to step down for a racist tirade decades ago and rightfully so, I don't see how this is any different.
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Same team that employs Evander Kane. Seems to explain it enough to me.
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10-03-2022, 10:41 AM
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#794
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
How does Edmonton continue to employ Bob Nicholson?
Bill Peters was forced to step down for a racist tirade decades ago and rightfully so, I don't see how this is any different.
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Totally agree but the Flames employ Brad Pascall who had big roles at Hockey Canada from 1996 to 2014. When he quit he was vice president of hockey operations and national teams. Hard to think he doesn't know all about the skeletons.
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10-03-2022, 11:37 AM
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#795
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
at what point do these become potentially financial crimes as well?
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HC received money from registrants and can basically use that money in which ever way they see fit, as long as it's not illegal. Creating a separate fund and paying people off for sexual abuse claims probably isn't illegal. Highly unethical? Absolutely. But not illegal.
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10-03-2022, 12:10 PM
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#796
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
How does Edmonton continue to employ Bob Nicholson?
Bill Peters was forced to step down for a racist tirade decades ago and rightfully so, I don't see how this is any different.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chedder
Totally agree but the Flames employ Brad Pascall who had big roles at Hockey Canada from 1996 to 2014. When he quit he was vice president of hockey operations and national teams. Hard to think he doesn't know all about the skeletons.
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I think there are a number of hockey people that must be at pucker factor 11 right now.
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10-03-2022, 03:49 PM
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#797
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chedder
Totally agree but the Flames employ Brad Pascall who had big roles at Hockey Canada from 1996 to 2014. When he quit he was vice president of hockey operations and national teams. Hard to think he doesn't know all about the skeletons.
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Can we acknowledge that there is at least some difference between being a senior cog in two different organizations and being the undisputed leader who set the toxic direction for two different organizations (perhaps continued the toxic direction of the Oilers would be more accurate)?
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10-04-2022, 09:44 AM
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#798
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Norm!
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This hearing is certainly um contentious
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10-04-2022, 01:30 PM
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#799
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I believe in the Jays.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitsilano
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Being combative and pointing the finger at other organizations and industries as being guilty of suppressing bad behaviour does not seem like a good look. Just my opinion.
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10-04-2022, 01:47 PM
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#800
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#1 Goaltender
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How the entire board and executive hasn't been kicked to the curb is beyond me.
Meet the new (female) boss, same as the old (male) boss:
"What we have heard is there is a call for a new perspective. Hockey Canada has secured an outside perspective. We're taking steps to change how we communicate," Skinner said.
"Our board does not share the view that Hockey Canada should be making more leadership changes at this time. As a board, we continue to support the CEO and management."
https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/hockey...ions-1.6094839
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