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Old 12-19-2014, 10:35 AM   #41
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I am still up in the air. No, he doesn't belong in jail based on the evidence presented, and with better evidence analysis available now, there might be some thing that exonerates him; on the other hand, proclaiming his innocence through this has costs him nothing and Adnan is just a psychopath.

I am personally leaning towards Jay maybe having sold drugs to the serial killer-rapist and somehow Hae got mixed up in it. Jay was threatened by the serial killer-rapist, and so Jay pointed the finger at someone who he didn't think would get convicted, and the lies snowballed out of control from there.
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Old 12-19-2014, 11:09 AM   #42
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I think he did it.
But I also think he shouldn't be in jail as there isn't enough evidence.
This sums it up for me as well.
I also think Jay played more of a significant role than he's letting on to.
With the evidence, or lack thereof, he shouldn't be in jail.
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Old 12-19-2014, 12:03 PM   #43
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I'm interested in the mistrail. It wasn't talked about much. Seems the first trail was headed towards an acquittal but then a juror heard the judge call Gutierrez a liar?

Lawyers? Is this common?
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:27 PM   #44
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Spot-on parody on SNL this weekend, almost uncanny.




Even made fun of the stupid Mailchimp commercial.
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Old 12-29-2014, 03:51 PM   #45
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Jay Speaks!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Old 12-31-2014, 08:19 AM   #46
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So, in that interview, Jay admits to perjury.
Punishable up to 10 years in prison and/or for the state to revoke the plea deal Jay made to testify against Adnan.

And we've only seen part 1 of the interview.

This whole thing has gone semi-viral. I wonder if anything will come of it and if Adnan now has grounds for any sort of appeal
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Old 12-31-2014, 09:20 AM   #47
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I kind of feel bad for Jay. No matter, my take is adnand is. It guilty in the court of law but I doubt he's innocent.
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Old 01-05-2015, 08:56 AM   #48
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He definitely makes some good points about why he wasnt forthcoming with police. I tend, like most it seems, to assume Adnan is guilty, but it seems tough to convict.
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Old 01-05-2015, 10:02 AM   #49
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Part 2:
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2...ve-jay-part-2/
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Old 01-06-2015, 12:30 AM   #50
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^^ looks like part 3 is also there.
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Old 02-10-2015, 02:19 PM   #51
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Adnan is getting another shot at an appeal: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...html?track=rss
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Old 12-10-2015, 08:17 AM   #52
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Season 2 e1 showed up in my podcatcher this morning.
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A judge in Maryland has granted a retrial to Adnan Syed, whose conviction for the 1999 murder of his ex-girlfriend was the subject of the first season of the hit podcast “Serial,” Mr. Syed’s lawyer announced Thursday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us...new-trial.html
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Sucks for Jay. He's tried to put this all behind him
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Not sure if guilty, but I can not see how 12 jurors thought he was. Will be interesting. The right decision, imo
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Maryland’s highest court on Friday reinstated the conviction of Adnan Syed, whose case gained fame after the "Serial" podcast examined his cause.

The Maryland Court of Appeals found that Syed received a “deficient performance” from his defense lawyer, the late Cristina Gutierrez, but the weight of the evidence still pointed toward guilt.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ryland-n981101

Would be most interested in a legal opinion.
I don't understand. I would have expected the court be required to order a new trial having found Syed received ineffective assistance of counsel.
Obviously not.
I don't have any idea where the defense team would/could go next?
It should definitely pump up HBO viewership of their upcoming series on this, which starts in a couple days.
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Beyond a reasonable doubt.

Riiiiight.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainmen...rial-1.6583220
https://www.wsj.com/articles/adnan-s...on-11663163015

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Prosecutors in Baltimore are asking a judge to vacate Adnan Syed’s conviction for the 1999 murder of Hae Min Lee, a case that riveted America when it was turned into the hit first season of the podcast “Serial.”

The state’s attorney for Baltimore City said in a motion filed Wednesday in circuit court that a nearly yearlong investigation, conducted with the defense, found new evidence, including information concerning the possible involvement of two alternative suspects.

Prosecutors are requesting Mr. Syed be given a new trial. They said they weren’t asserting that Mr. Syed is innocent. “However, for all the reasons set forth below, the State no longer has confidence in the integrity of the conviction,” said the office of Baltimore State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby, which is overseeing the reinvestigation.

The office is recommending Mr. Syed be released on his own recognizance pending the continuing investigation.

Mr. Syed, a Baltimore native, has been serving a life sentence after he was convicted in 2000 of strangling Ms. Lee, his ex-girlfriend. He was 17 years old at the time of the crime, and was charged as an adult.

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About damn time
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Old 09-19-2022, 02:58 PM   #60
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Looks like conviction has overturned and he’s being released.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/adnan-...rned-1.6588055

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At the behest of prosecutors, Circuit Court Judge Melissa Phinn ordered that Syed's conviction be vacated and approved the release of the 41-year-old who has spent more than two decades behind bars.
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