I also liked that video - the end of it has Dean Cain give her a kiss. He was the video's director and her fiancé at the time.
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I agree in large part with what you are saying but this statement is complete crap. To e say that people don't have a choice and that they have no free will is garbage - people have a choice all the time not to commit suicide, they have a choice to seek help, there are so many choices that are available. I disagree with the original statement that it is the easy way out because it disregards the suffering, I think that yours is equally as foolish and potentially damaging.
You missed the point I was trying to make. If depression is left untreated and allowed to run it's course to the point I had reached, choice and free will is gone. Rational mined people don't kill or try to kill themselves.
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Rational mined people don't kill or try to kill themselves.
That is it in a sentence.
We are applying our stable minded thought to those that don't have that luxury. I used to think that it was a "easy" way out and they were pu$$ies for killing themselves. Then a family friend had a son that killed himself, that changed by opinion. After that incident I learnt a lot about mental illness. Sad days for the family.
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Would it be okay if we just didn't worry about a damn dog in this tragic situation?
I guess what I think is if she'd kill the dog, it's probably a damn good thing her kids weren't with her...
I know of exactly one suicide where I think it was absolutely taking the easy way out. A guy who went to my dad's church led a double life and molested little kids. When he was found out, he went to a field by his house, parked his car and shot himself in the heart, instead of taking his punishment like a man.
I am the furthest thing from a country music fan, but there was something special about Mindy McCready when she first came out that made me think she would be a huge star. She had a great voice with the ability to have more romantic songs (ten thousand angels) and fun songs (guys do it all the time), she was also sexy as hell and could pull off looking like the girl next door.
You missed the point I was trying to make. If depression is left untreated and allowed to run it's course to the point I had reached, choice and free will is gone. Rational mined people don't kill or try to kill themselves.
Free will still exists though. People still have options to get help. Of course depression (which is a spectrum - not everyone who has depression is suicidal) makes it more difficult but to say that there are no options and the free will is gone it doesn't give any credit to the people who don't kill themselves, who do get help. People always have a choice.
Also people who are rationally minded commit suicide all the time, euthanasia is based on that philosophy that people in a rationale state of mind have the right to decide when they want to end their life.
Free will still exists though. People still have options to get help. Of course depression (which is a spectrum - not everyone who has depression is suicidal) makes it more difficult but to say that there are no options and the free will is gone it doesn't give any credit to the people who don't kill themselves, who do get help. People always have a choice.
Also people who are rationally minded commit suicide all the time, euthanasia is based on that philosophy that people in a rationale state of mind have the right to decide when they want to end their life.
Your first paragraph assumes that we are talking about someone who hasn't reached a tipping point where they see no options or hope of change. All they see is an endless future of suffering. You are severely discounting the impact that sever mental illness has on the ability of people to perceive choices, outcomes and other things that we assume people are capable of.
Your second paragraph addresses a completely different, and completely unrelated, issue. Why you are referencing it here I have no idea.
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