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Old 09-16-2019, 05:21 PM   #61
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Do you believe that Tkachuk is an elite defensive player?
I’d say he is very good defensively right now and is tracking to become elite

Possession is effective defense if you’re playing against top lines. He can definitely make it to where Mark Stone is right now, which is unquestionably “elite”.
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I’d say he is very good defensively right now and is tracking to become elite

Possession is effective defense if you’re playing against top lines. He can definitely make it to where Mark Stone is right now, which is unquestionably “elite”.
I also think he can get there. I am challenging the assertion that he has already arrived ...
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:28 PM   #63
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I also think he can get there. I am challenging the assertion that he has already arrived ...
He’s really not that far off. I don’t think it’s a ridiculous claim at all. Lindholm and Backlund got Selke votes and he is right up there with those two for best on the team
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He’s really not that far off. I don’t think it’s a ridiculous claim at all. Lindholm and Backlund got Selke votes and he is right up there with those two for best on the team
I'm a huge Tkachuk fan but that's just a crazy comparison. Lindholm was the defensive pillar on the top line (and thereby made that line elite as opposed to very good). Backlund is a defensive specialist centre. He is the one assigned to check McDavid. I'm confident Tkachuk will never be assigned to check McDavid.
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He’s really not that far off. I don’t think it’s a ridiculous claim at all. Lindholm and Backlund got Selke votes and he is right up there with those two for best on the team
Mmmmm. No. I don't think so. Tkachuk is good, but Lindholm and especially Backlund are on a whole other level.
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Like Tkachuk to 100 point guys?
Anybody who wasn't an RFA signed this summer is irrelevant when it comes to this contract.
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Anybody who wasn't an RFA signed this summer is irrelevant when it comes to this contract.
Yeah... no. The new contracts are new data points that complicate things.

Two GMs agree on stupid valuations. 25-29 have yet to weigh in.
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Players will come and go as they always have. No need to get your panties all bunched up. If he signs he signs. Still won't be worse off than that team up north.

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