There is talk of another export terminal north of there(indigenous owned) which I believe would tie in to Coastal Gaslink. This would indicate the pipeline has more capacity than the export terminal, and could supply 2. So the Kitimat plant would technically be running at full capacity, while not able to export all the gas the pipeline could take.
Now, lot's of "if's" in there, and I have no inside knowledge. Just what I had read somewhere recently.
I don't think gas supply would be an issue, unless new drilling is stopped. Once there is a market, it will be economical to extract and export.
Yeah, I hear you, which is why I asked the question as it wasn't clear what he was driving at. The Cedar LNG plant is quite a bit smaller than LNG Canada, so presumably the pipeline capacity is sufficient. It seems to me the LNG Canada plant running at full capacity really depends on the operational issues pertaining to that plant. I don't think any plant ever runs at 100% (scheduled maintenance) but I don't think there would be any reason to question capacity when the thing isn't even built.
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Yeah, I hear you, which is why I asked the question as it wasn't clear what he was driving at. The Cedar LNG plant is quite a bit smaller than LNG Canada, so presumably the pipeline capacity is sufficient. It seems to me the LNG Canada plant running at full capacity really depends on the operational issues pertaining to that plant. I don't think any plant ever runs at 100% (scheduled maintenance) but I don't think there would be any reason to question capacity when the thing isn't even built.
I was actually wondering if the LNG plant will have enough natural gas being supplied, and even if it could be expanded to handle more.
I was actually wondering if the LNG plant will have enough natural gas being supplied, and even if it could be expanded to handle more.
I've now heard the pipeline will be probably under 1/2 capacity, maybe as low as 1/4, and can also be twinned. It only has one compressor station, so they can add more to increase capacity.
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Costal Gas Link should be able to handle 5 bcf/day at capacity. To put that in perspective that is almost 30% of current Canadian natural gas production.
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Here's what also worries me. Recent refugee crises (Syria, Ukraine, and others) have led to the rise of far-right reactionary heads of state around the world such as Trump, Bolsonaro, etc. What will the reaction be when the number of refugees increases by an order of magnitude? We're probably looking at social upheaval and violence on a scale that we haven't seen in our lifetimes (or maybe ever).
And there could be diseases frozen in permafrost that we don't even know about that could be unleashed on the world once the ice melts.
Here's what also worries me. Recent refugee crises (Syria, Ukraine, and others) have led to the rise of far-right reactionary heads of state around the world such as Trump, Bolsonaro, etc. What will the reaction be when the number of refugees increases by an order of magnitude? We're probably looking at social upheaval and violence on a scale that we haven't seen in our lifetimes (or maybe ever).
And there could be diseases frozen in permafrost that we don't even know about that could be unleashed on the world once the ice melts.
Respectfully feel this slant on climate change properly belongs in a politics thread.
This group has been keeping pretty on topic, really don't think this a path this thread needs to go down.
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Here's what also worries me. Recent refugee crises (Syria, Ukraine, and others) have led to the rise of far-right reactionary heads of state around the world such as Trump, Bolsonaro, etc. What will the reaction be when the number of refugees increases by an order of magnitude? We're probably looking at social upheaval and violence on a scale that we haven't seen in our lifetimes (or maybe ever).
And there could be diseases frozen in permafrost that we don't even know about that could be unleashed on the world once the ice melts.
Man I hope you stretched before making such a large leap. Let’s stick to facts rather than wild speculation and what-if scenarios especially when there is more than enough misinformation surrounding this topic coming from both sides of the camp. I think Street Pharmacists illustration answered the topic pretty clearly. These are all based on modeling so always subject to change as well depending on inputs and assumptions used.
It's really not an issue at all. Almost everywhere with any kind of real heating/cooling needs has a mismatch between heating and cooling loads. You just size the equipment for whichever is more appropriate; generally that's heating for heating-dominated climates and cooling for cooling-dominated climates.
Short cycling can be an issue, but it's more of a problem with modulating equipment. My main heat pump can output between 3K-26K BTUs in heating or cooling mode, so if the cooling needs are less than 3K, then it'll kick on and off pretty regularly which isn't great for units that are designed to run 24 hours a day. But by the time it gets warm enough inside to warrant turning it on, the cooling needs are at least that high.
And with non-modulating central heat pumps, they're not designed to run all the time (except at the design temperature) so they can easily handle turning on and off a few times per hour which is basically what happens during smaller indoor/outdoor temperature deltas. And if it turns into a real issue, it's trivial to get a thermostat that can have minimum cycle on/off times set on it.
We don’t have air conditioning and there are only a few days a year we wished we had it. Any issues just shutting the heat pump off for a few months?
I think I've referenced Nat Bullard's decarbonization trends presentation before, but if I haven't, I highly suggest people who are interested in this stuff check it out:
Anyways, he has a slide about a survey question to 200 O&G executives about the energy market. One of the questions is about the age of inexpensive natural gas in the US ending due to LNG exports and underinvestment in production. Almost 70% of them expect prices to rise substatially and permanently by 2025. That's a pretty significant change.
The followup questions to that then become:
a) what does this do to the competitiveness of battery and other storage?
b) what does this do to the economics of heat pumps?
c) what does this do to investment in electfication of industrial heat processes?
Also, if Canadian gas continues to be cheap as it is somewhat landlocked, does it make economic sense to build a pipeline south? I genuinely have no idea what kind of economics would be required and where that would be.
I'm not sure what price spread is required between Europe and North America to keep the US gas price high, but the what happens to prices once LNG onfrastructure is fully built in and Europe decreases LNG use? I suppose Asia will increase in usage, but they can't support quite as high of a price as Europe has.
Fascinating and really hard to predict where this goes, but I don't anticipate Canada's gas sector to be hurting for some time either way
We don’t have air conditioning and there are only a few days a year we wished we had it. Any issues just shutting the heat pump off for a few months?
Most heat pumps should be complete with programmable controls, allowing you to run the thing heat-only. Alternatively you may be able to program a separate cooling set point, much higher than your heating set point, so that the cooling cycle doesn't actuate until the house gets quite warm.
Or, if you really don't want the cooling, you could just turn the power off.
We don’t have air conditioning and there are only a few days a year we wished we had it. Any issues just shutting the heat pump off for a few months?
No, not at all. That's how most people in places that don't need a ton of A/C use them. Like most HVAC equipment, there's 4 settings: Heat, Cool, Auto, and Off. So you can use Heat mode during the heating season, turn it to Off the rest of the year, and then switch it into Cool the few times it's needed.
You can rely on Auto to do all that for you, but that's often not the best way, particularly in places with cooler nights. You can easily get in a situation where you're heating in the night/morning and then cooling later in the same day. Whereas if you just let the interior temperature drop a bit overnight, it'd keep the space cooler during the day without A/C.
You can rely on Auto to do all that for you, but that's often not the best way, particularly in places with cooler nights. You can easily get in a situation where you're heating in the night/morning and then cooling later in the same day. Whereas if you just let the interior temperature drop a bit overnight, it'd keep the space cooler during the day without A/C.
Can you come and explain this to my wife?
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So an interesting thread appeared on Twitter and it blew my mind about solar. We don't see much solar here in BC, and really even most Albertans aren't aware of just how fast the solar market is growing because most of it is happening in Europe and China.
So an interesting thread appeared on Twitter and it blew my mind about solar. We don't see much solar here in BC, and really even most Albertans aren't aware of just how fast the solar market is growing because most of it is happening in Europe and China.
