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Old 03-12-2024, 10:01 PM   #61
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Well, I hope the SELL! crowd is happy.


Terrible hockey the past few games and very little to look forward to in the near future. Maybe the odd win here and there, but the last three have been grotesque. (The complete non-calls didn't help, though they didn't hurt either.)


Vladar was not good. Still can't recompose himself after a poor play. He has the odd outstanding game and then craps the bed in the next ones.


Oh well...someone wanted this. Depressing.
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Old 03-12-2024, 10:01 PM   #63
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The Vladar experiment needs to end. He has been way below average for 2 seasons now.

The numbers don't lie. He has been bad.

We didn't lose this game because of him and he even had a very strong first but he can't be consistent for 60 minutes.
JFC, WTF?!? Why don't the Flames just bring up the whole goddamn Wranglers and call them the Flames? What an effin stupid post! Seriously!
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Old 03-12-2024, 10:02 PM   #64
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Ok
Another stat you might like is vladar has the 6th worst goals saved above expected in the entire NHL.

Markstrom has the 4th best.

It's clear to anyone watching that he has been bad.
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Old 03-12-2024, 10:02 PM   #65
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Did the Flames think this was this a Jeopardy challenge?

Ooh! Let me guess!

"What is....Post-War Dresden??"
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Old 03-12-2024, 10:02 PM   #66
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Berkly Catton, please and thank you.
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Your algorithm is failing you. COL had an expected goal total of a lot more than 3.

MacKinnon alone has an expected goal total of 4. Every game.
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Old 03-12-2024, 10:03 PM   #68
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It's going to be tough to drop below the Habs in the standings, but a top-10 pick is definitely possible.
How valuable is moving three spots up in the top 10 historically? Imagine it’s at least a second round pick

Plus our picks move up three spots in every round. 3 spots up in the early second round is valuable as well
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Old 03-12-2024, 10:03 PM   #69
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But hey! You gotta admit
It’s one heck of a lot of fun hey?
Just another unrelated question. When are the season ticket renewals due?
Can't wait for another "save the Flames" ticket drive.
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What is going on lol...I am not insulted or upset, just pointing out I don't spend money on the NHL...Flames in 1st or 32nd
Ha ha ok
And I admit I’m wondering how this city will handle even 3 to 5 years of a rebuild
It wasn’t too long ago that the press level seats were tarped off
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Your algorithm is failing you. COL had an expected goal total of a lot more than 3.

MacKinnon alone has an expected goal total of 4. Every game.
haha wat
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God help us. Might have to take a 3 or 4 year break from the NHL.

Playoffs a long long long long way off.
This is what almost everybody wanted. Well here we go.
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Colorado had an expected goals of 3. And they scored 6. He was bad. Its ok to admit that even if he had a good first.
If Flames scored 5 goals I would blame Vladar for the loss. For me he let in 1 weaker goal, but other goals are not so weak.
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You dont get to .880 save percentage with stellar goaltending.

Colorado had an expected goal total of 3. They scored 6.

You don’t stop the Avs by gutting your team and dressing a second pairing, a third pairing and waiver wire pickups

Just stop

That stat does not factor in defensive play or shot placement

I can’t dignify any further

You’re embarrassing yourself
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Vladar had 5th worst goals saved above average for any goalie with minimum 12 games.

He also has 4th worst expected save percentage in entire league.

Are people actually defending him? Not just about tonight but even last season he had similiar numbers.
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It going to get a lot more ugly before it gets better.
Yup

This is the peril of the tank. String a bunch of these together and you’ve got a long term problem that isn’t solved by some 18 year old you picked 3rd overall.
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You don’t stop the Avs by gutting your team and dressing a second pairing, a third pairing and waiver wire pickups

Just stop

That stat does not factor in defensive play or shot placement

I can’t dignify any further

You’re embarrassing yourself
Just a young newbie joining the CP community he will learn the hard way.
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Old 03-12-2024, 10:07 PM   #78
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Good to see a nice quiet period for Wolf.

Have to start somewhere.
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Well, I hope the SELL! crowd is happy.


Terrible hockey the past few games and very little to look forward to in the near future. Maybe the odd win here and there, but the last three have been grotesque. (The complete non-calls didn't help, though they didn't hurt either.)


Vladar was not good. Still can't recompose himself after a poor play. He has the odd outstanding game and then craps the bed in the next ones.


Oh well...someone wanted this. Depressing.
Yeah, like what would you like to have seen?

Sign the players that didnt want to sign?
What other option was there, really?
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Old 03-12-2024, 10:07 PM   #80
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Can't wait for another "save the Flames" ticket drive.
Always with the drama


Flames fans are way smarter than the owner gives them credit for. They know they need a rebuild and did a great job supporting the last one


If renewals are down it’s because the fans are tired of mediocrity and don’t see a bright future with this strategy

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