[Trade] Tkachuk (8 yrs x $9.5 mil) + `25 4th to FLA for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt & `25 1st

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Have the conditions on the pick been confirmed?

They are listed on capfriendly.com if that confirms it.

[EVERLAST]

I'll get slammed for saying it but.....F it....

If #23 can come back and play 82 games I'd love to see him resurrect himself with a decent year. He deserves it as he's busted his busted ass his whole time here.....and it would be a great feelgood story.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

Don't be condescending, be better

Isn't this condescending?

Honestly ... just go away.

Finding a problem in a trade that is shockingly positive deserves a rib. Sorry your skin is so paper thin.

Jesus this site these days.

(maybe it's the covid talking)

[getbak]

I don't know much about Weegar, but I assume he doesn't like carbon-based life forms.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I think some people are really undervaluing the worth of a 24 year old Matthew Tkachuk signed for 8 years. This deal has the potential to be horrible for the Flames.

IF Huberdeau signs an extension, it becomes a close deal. But you also have to keep in mind that Huberdeau is 29 and statistically speaking has already peaked and can expect a decline in a couple of years.

IF the Flames flip them at the TDL, they can get some decent parts back. But you just know that if the Flames are anywhere near a playoff spot by that time, they will walk them to free agency. Recent history suggests that.

Also, I am not sold on Weegar. I think he is part of the list of players who overachieved in Florida (Duclair, Bennett, Marchment). I recall him being absolute dog #### in the playoffs and Florida fans wanted his head on a pike.

So yeah, a lot of this story still has to be determined, but it has the potential in 2 years to amount to just Shwindt and a lottery protected 2025 first rounder when all is said and done. Hard for me to get excited at this point.

What in the world could you have done better armchair GM?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Have the conditions on the pick been confirmed?

Florida's official release just says the 1st is lottery protected.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by dino7c

This is such a lopsided win and the entire hockey world knows it

anyone complaining has me seriously doubting their affiliation to the Flames

What does "affiliation" to the Flames have to do with putting some critical thought into the deal instead of jumping the gun into instant gaga? There's more layers to think about than an instant reaction.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by EVERLAST

I'll get slammed for saying it but.....F it....

If #23 can come back and play 82 games I'd love to see him resurrect himself with a decent year. He deserves it as he's busted his busted ass his whole time here.....and it would be a great feelgood story.

who would slam you for wanting that?

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Isn't this condescending?

Honestly ... just go away.

Finding a problem in a trade that is shockingly positive deserves a rib. Sorry your skin is so paper thin.

Jesus this site these days.

(maybe it's the covid talking)

Well the only way the trade would make sense is if Barkov was coming back too.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Someone needs to wake Lindholm up in Sweden!

Not just Lindholm. Half the team! (At least according to Johnny)

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Well... That replaces Gaudreau. Still need a C.

EDIT: You know come to think of it you could probably use Weegar as the centerpiece of a JT Miller trade if you wanted. Or just sign Kadri, whatever.

[kehatch]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Have to give tkachuk tons of credit
Told the team he wasn’t signing
Gave them an actual list of teams
Willing to sign with one of them

He gave the team a great gift on the way out.

It's tough to not be a bit jaded when a drafted players chooses not to sign with your team. Also, Tkachuk acted in his own self interest to get a great long term deal in a destination of his choice.

But we have seen plenty of RFA disputes go bad and ultimately screw the team. Tkachuk, the agent, and the Flames all deserve praise from getting this done quickly with a W for all parties.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

there is your top three pick needed to win Flames fans

Yeah, but they lost one as well. Though not sure Gudbranson = Huberdeau.

They now have a 3OA and two 5 OAs. None of whom they drafted.

EDIT: Gudbranson was a Florida 3OA as well, LOL.

[Wastedyouth]

Huberdeau has more 1.0+ PPG seasons than Gaudreau, and typically on much much much ####tier teams.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by dino7c

just keeps getting better

seriously did Brad have incriminating photos of BZ

Can you imagine the other offers out there (Like Carolina) that Florida had to keep adding to beat?

This is such a home run, we’d still be pretty happy even if Huberdeau wasn’t included.

[smiggy77]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Have the conditions on the pick been confirmed?

I was going to ask you that

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

What does "affiliation" to the Flames have to do with putting some critical thought into the deal instead of jumping the gun into instant gaga? There's more layers to think about than an instant reaction.

"not a fan"

is not critical thought...this is a massive win for the Flames

they have FAR more assets today than they had yesterday


This is a deal you do if Tkachuk is begging to stay, to do it with a player everyone knows wants out. GMs must have been dumb enough to think he is actually just below McDavid/Matthews

[Wood]

Originally Posted by fleury

[*]Weegar - I like the idea of, "if we can't score, let's prevent the opposing team from scoring". He's a serviceable two way dman, who can be a 3rd best dman on many teams. No idea if he's signed for the long term but in a year where we've lost offence, I have no problem with him being brought in to stop the bleeding and move the puck up at the same time.

You're underselling Weegar a lot here

He's a guy who's been in Norris conversations for the last 2 seasons, and has nearly perfect underlying numbers. He's clearly been hidden well in Florida

I love how big of a step Hanifin and Andersson took last season, but Weegar is arguably our best defenseman now and he's immediately our PP1 D

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Yoho

What in the world could you have done better armchair GM?

Would be interesting to see what Carolina and St. Louis were offering. If it ever comes out.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

Wonder how Chucky will like Maurice after he berated him in the bubble playoffs.

Good call but considering Scheifle was part of the leadership group that shut down on him as coach in the seasons since that incident, Maurice may revisit some of his comments back then.