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Old 06-15-2021, 08:32 PM   #1
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Could actually do its job.

Here's a quick quip from a different sport. At :24 you'll hear a voice say "Nige, Nige..." and that's the war room, a spotter up top communicating with the ref (Nigel Owens) in real time. Points out some obstruction, Nigel sees it, negates the rest of the play, explains this all in 10 seconds to the players, and the game goes on. It's not laborious, and there's no BS about it (notably in rugby refs take absolutely no back-talk from players either).

So where the NHL are not bothered about a blatant too-many-men on a goal scored.... high level rugby gets even little things right in a matter of a few seconds. It can be done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tetQy2JBJHQ
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Old 06-15-2021, 08:58 PM   #2
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Just a slight difference in the speed of what's happening between rugby and hockey.
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Old 06-15-2021, 09:12 PM   #3
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All the more reason the refs should have a live "spotter" in the rafters for help, no?
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Just a slight difference in the speed of what's happening between rugby and hockey.
30 giant and fast dudes on a giant pitch vs. 12 with sticks on a pretty big surface.

Maybe the speed of play in hockey warrants sober second eyes with replay abilities.

Personally, I'd be fine with a few more reviews to get things right (though I'd have time limits on how long they can take, otherwise call on ice stands), and even retroactively fixing things at TV timeouts (penalties, etc.).
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And while we are piling on, rugby commentators are a cut above nhl commentators. They enjoy the silence from time to time.
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They should try and poach Nigel Owens to be the Director of Officiating.

That guy is amazing!
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For reference, Nigel Owens is the best referee in the game.

Favourite lines of his are "this is not soccer" after someone does some kind of embellishment, and "I'm straighter than that" after a wonky throw into the line out.
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They should try and poach Nigel Owens to be the Director of Officiating.

That guy is amazing!
Are you guys making plans for Nigel? Do you only want what’s best for him?

I’ll show myself out
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The rugby reviews aren't perfect but still leaps and bounds ahead of whatever the hell the NHL is doing.

Take the 2nd ref off the ice and put them in front of TV monitors with a radio link to the on ice ref. Give them the power to make or change any calls with the goal being to get it right including too many men before a goal.
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The rugby reviews aren't perfect but still leaps and bounds ahead of whatever the hell the NHL is doing.

Take the 2nd ref off the ice and put them in front of TV monitors with a radio link to the on ice ref. Give them the power to make or change any calls with the goal being to get it right including too many men before a goal.
I will never understand this.

The NHL is still using iPads between the benches for Referee review and these monkeys can barely use a damned stopwatch let alone the game clock.

A direct link between the on-ice ref and a video review room? Surely you jest! What dark voodoo magic is this that you speak of? Surely such wonderous technology cannot truly exist!
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I think some of the bad reffing can really steal a game instantly. It's a complete let down as a fan, unless your team gets away with it. (I am hypocritical when it comes to the Flames).

However, watching the sport without your team and seeing a team get punished for a bad call just ruins the game and the effort to watch. Takes the competitiveness out of it.
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I think some of the bad reffing can really steal a game instantly. It's a complete let down as a fan, unless your team gets away with it. (I am hypocritical when it comes to the Flames).

However, watching the sport without your team and seeing a team get punished for a bad call just ruins the game and the effort to watch. Takes the competitiveness out of it.
Of course. Because when crappy refereeing ruins the game you might as well just have the Captains sort out the result at Centre Ice in a heated bout of rock, paper, scissors.

If you're not going to let the players determine the outcome of the game then WTF are we even doing here?
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I will never understand this.

The NHL is still using iPads between the benches for Referee review and these monkeys can barely use a damned stopwatch let alone the game clock.

A direct link between the on-ice ref and a video review room? Surely you jest! What dark voodoo magic is this that you speak of? Surely such wonderous technology cannot truly exist!

Why do they even need iPads when there are giant video screens above the ice at every arena?
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Why do they even need iPads when there are giant video screens above the ice at every arena?
Because they have some control over how they see something on the ipad.

Also, I'm amazed at how bad refereeing has become since we moved to so many HD angles of every play. Not to mention social media. /s
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Because they have some control over how they see something on the ipad.

Also, I'm amazed at how bad refereeing has become since we moved to so many HD angles of every play. Not to mention social media. /s
Has it gotten worse (Ask Toronto fans how they feel about Fraiser) or has it just become more apparent because we can see everything in HD from 30 angles instantly.
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I feel like reviewing everything would add at least an extra hour to every broadcast
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Increase the Linesman’s ability to call certain penalties

That would automatically double the set of useful eyes on the ice.
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I feel like reviewing everything would add at least an extra hour to every broadcast
That's the crux of it, obviously, and I picked this example to use, specifically because I think the penalty is a little chintzy - I didn't think it directly affected the play. The officials thought it did and called it by the book.

Not every penalty and not every play.

But we've seen Paul Byron go to the bench with blood streaming from his head off a really obvious and fairly brutal high stick, we just saw a goal scored with 7 Lightning on the ice, in the same game the wrong team was penalized for a goalie charge. This egregrious stuff need not exist. I don't think it's that hard to do this and add only 10 minutes to a game.
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For reference, Nigel Owens is the best referee in the game.

Favourite lines of his are "this is not soccer" after someone does some kind of embellishment, and "I'm straighter than that" after a wonky throw into the line out.
Doubly amazing to have an openly gay referee both able to mock himself AND run a game with an absolutely iron fist at the same time, maintaining the respect of every player on the field.
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Well worth the 10 minutes
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