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Old 04-28-2020, 08:04 AM   #21
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Might not be the most 'guy' thing to say, but I miss hugs.
I wonder if people in Europe will still do that cheek kiss thing.
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Old 04-28-2020, 08:47 AM   #22
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I thought the purpose of this thread would be what the next 3-6 months would be like as restrictions lift.

I think getting back to Sweden’s level of restrictions would be a goal.

- no large groups over 15
- all businesses allowed to operate with spacing increases
- mandatory (or socially shamed) mask wearing
- continued work from home for those who can
- an attempt at regular school in September
- Parks open, no out of province camping, campgrounds limited to trailers with bathrooms, back country open.
- Golf remains closed
Golf was about the only real restriction Illinois lifts May 1. All other business that was mandatory closed can now offer curbside pickup was the only other lifting of restrictions. Otherwise the same until May 30.
Golf courses need to implement several measures to allow opening.
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Old 04-28-2020, 08:51 AM   #23
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I wonder if people in Europe will still do that cheek kiss thing.
Yup. This is absolutely ingrained in their culture. We stopped by for a quick backyard visit Sunday afternoon with my wife's beloved aunt, maintaining all appropriate measures.
Momma cried when we left because she couldn't kiss her aunt goodbye.
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Old 04-28-2020, 10:46 AM   #24
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I thought the purpose of this thread would be what the next 3-6 months would be like as restrictions lift.

I think getting back to Sweden’s level of restrictions would be a goal.

- no large groups over 15
- all businesses allowed to operate with spacing increases
- mandatory (or socially shamed) mask wearing
- continued work from home for those who can
- an attempt at regular school in September
- Parks open, no out of province camping, campgrounds limited to trailers with bathrooms, back country open.
- Golf remains closed
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Isn’t that what we have now?
Brother, it's the Boomers.
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Old 05-06-2020, 08:26 AM   #26
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One of the things I miss the most is going to the library with my daughter.

With the virus, I have no idea how libraries can possibly open within the next year and be safe.
the sheer volume of paper surfaces that can have the virus on it, the amount of shared space that you couldn't possibly keep clean between patrons. Just everything about a library screams to me that there is no way they can open again unless there is a vaccine.
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Old 05-06-2020, 08:49 AM   #27
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One of the things I miss the most is going to the library with my daughter.

With the virus, I have no idea how libraries can possibly open within the next year and be safe.
the sheer volume of paper surfaces that can have the virus on it, the amount of shared space that you couldn't possibly keep clean between patrons. Just everything about a library screams to me that there is no way they can open again unless there is a vaccine.
I was thinking you could go to curbside pickup. It doesn’t give you the library but at least gives you the books. You could even wait a week between return and sorting so any virus on returned books could die.
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I thought that the virus has a very short life (a day or two) on paper. I don’t know about its life on a hard-cover book. I realize that”short” means it still exists for a time.
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I thought that the virus has a very short life (a day or two) on paper. I don’t know about its life on a hard-cover book. I realize that”short” means it still exists for a time.
I was thinking that in person library service has thousands of people constantly touching the books, magazines, computers, tables, etc.

I can't see how the could keep a library clean enough the way things are now.

GGG has a good idea. If they could at least offer a pickup, I'd be thrilled.

my daughter is thoroughly sick of the books we have now.
I'd love a few things to read also.

The online selection is very limited compared to hard copies of books, and the waits are insanely long right now as everyone is online.

the last few years, library cards have been free, but I'd totally support say up to a $50 annual fee per person or family to keep things going and help them out.
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^I’m a library board trustee and know that many libraries are offering contact-free pickup. Yours may be doing that.
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^I’m a library board trustee and know that many libraries are offering contact-free pickup. Yours may be doing that.
Is that Edmonton your in?

My understanding is Calgary is still closed but looking at options to provide services before phase 3
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It'll be interesting to see how gyms adapt to post Covid19. With the capacity limits in place, does it mean people have to book timeslots at the gym? I guess one good thing is it hopefully eliminates those annoying guys at the gym socializing on their cell phones and dawdling around. People will now probably have to go in, get their workout done in their blocked time slot, and then get out as the gym cycles through the people going in and out.
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Hopefully a genuinely millennial and Gen-Z driven political movement.
That would be awful. Everybody would be poorer.
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^I’m a library board trustee and know that many libraries are offering contact-free pickup. Yours may be doing that.
I would love that, but couldn't find anything about that on the website for any of 5 locations I looked up in Edmonton.

everything boldly states not open. keep all borrowed materials at home.

bummer.
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That would be awful. Everybody would be poorer.
Because the Boomer-lead movement seems to be really working out well for the majority of the population.
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It'll be interesting to see how gyms adapt to post Covid19. With the capacity limits in place, does it mean people have to book timeslots at the gym? I guess one good thing is it hopefully eliminates those annoying guys at the gym socializing on their cell phones and dawdling around. People will now probably have to go in, get their workout done in their blocked time slot, and then get out as the gym cycles through the people going in and out.

hopefully this'll also encourage people to clean the hell up after themselves after a workout!
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Because the Boomer-lead movement seems to be really working out well for the majority of the population.
Depends. If you are talking about poverty rates, the yes, we live in a time where a lower percentage of people live in poverty than any other time in human history.

If you are talking about the ability to buy a new car every 2 years and take an over seas vacation every February, then thats a different story I suppose.

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Depends. If you are talking about poverty rates, the yes, we live in a time where a lower percentage of people live in poverty than any other time in human history.

If you are talking about the ability to buy a new car every 2 years and take an over seas vacation every February, then thats a different story I suppose.

Can we talk about a normal level below your $200,000 household income scenario you’ve painted as the non poverty stricken example?
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Is that Edmonton your in?

My understanding is Calgary is still closed but looking at options to provide services before phase 3
No, it’s a small Albertan city of 30-40K. Many municipal libraries are doing the same, including ours.
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Can we talk about a normal level below your $200,000 household income scenario you’ve painted as the non poverty stricken example?
Yes, please do. Is it better or worse than 50 years ago? 20 years ago?

Looking into the numbers myself, we seem to be living in the most prosperous era, with lower poverty rates than ever. Or are we not?

Many would argue we have a millenial minded individual running the country over the past 5 years. Has it helped?

I dont know either and am looking for answers too.

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