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Old 11-23-2020, 03:39 PM   #5261
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Note this is from November 5 but still pertinent today given Hinshaw's demeanor.

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I would like to know more about this. It's rather disheartening to hear that just today she's making some recommendations for further action. I don't know if that's on her or the government? I just think that we all knew we needed more action a week ago, and they don't seem to be in a hurry.
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Old 11-23-2020, 03:41 PM   #5262
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I personally think Hinshaw is in lockstep with the 430 Albertan physicians who have recommended a circuit-breaker lockdown. She just can't agree with or acknowledge that publicly because of concentrated pressure from the "decision makers".
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Old 11-23-2020, 03:42 PM   #5263
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Take it for what it's worth, but my wife's specialist is apparently good friends with Hinshaw and has said on a few occasions she is completely hamstrung by the government. She cannot do much else other than provide advice to them, and deliver the news.
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Old 11-23-2020, 03:43 PM   #5264
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In this situation she is like a queen on the chess board. Theoretically, she has the power to make a lot of bold moves, but they all end up with her fired and Albertans worse off with a puppet in her place.

What a weird world we are in where people are advocating for an unelected official to take the most dramatic action to our civil liberties in our lifetimes, and it actually seeming like a more promising course of action than waiting for the democratically [sort of] elected leader to do something.
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Old 11-23-2020, 03:59 PM   #5265
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Okotoks Oilers had to suspend operations yesterday due to a Covid case, and now the Calgary Canucks just announced that they are suspending all activities until at least December 5 as a precautionary measure. Crazy that the AJHL was the only hockey group allowed to play, when, to me, this is the group of players most likely to contract COVID due to their age, living situation, and amount of travel.

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He tested negative, doubt he's been hiding in the RV for two weeks.
His office said he will still isolate for 14 days regardless - which is today.

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Actually, that's not a valid reason, specifically for the reason you mentioned.
Surely one of the issues managers could figure out how to work Zoom or Microsoft Teams like the rest of the world? In fact, they've already shown they know how to do that. Trudeau managed to do daily briefings while he was isolating. Hinshaw has as well. But Kenney can't? Come on.

In fact, Jason Kenney simply showing up via Zoom would have been leadership as it would have set the right example.
That was my point, I guess I did not state it clearly. By in person I meant live/physically present, I agree there is no reason he could not speak remotely.
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Okotoks Oilers had to suspend operations yesterday due to a Covid case, and now the Calgary Canucks just announced that they are suspending all activities until at least December 5 as a precautionary measure. Crazy that the AJHL was the only hockey group allowed to play, when, to me, this is the group of players most likely to contract COVID due to their age, living situation, and amount of travel.
Canmore Eagles suspended their operations on Thursday do to a positive test within the organization.

As for the bolded the league travel was substantially reduced and schedule severely altered to follow return to play guidelines.
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Old 11-23-2020, 04:17 PM   #5268
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Take it for what it's worth, but my wife's specialist is apparently good friends with Hinshaw and has said on a few occasions she is completely hamstrung by the government. She cannot do much else other than provide advice to them, and deliver the news.
As it should be. She provides one, albeit very valuable part of the equation. It is not her job, nor should it be, to make wide-sweeping policy decisions. She isn't accountable to the electorate.

Don't like what the UCP has done here? Make sure you hammer it home during the next election cycle. I think you'll be surprised that outside of the cozy socialist confines of twitter, reddit and calgarypuck, people are either undecided or fine with how the UCP has handled the pandemic.
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Old 11-23-2020, 04:21 PM   #5269
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Uh, not meaning this in a mean way, but there was a poll recently done that had only something like 30% support for Alberta's handling of the pandemic...
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He forgot to add the cozy socialist confines of Alberta.
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Old 11-23-2020, 04:23 PM   #5271
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I think you'll be surprised that outside of the cozy socialist confines of twitter, reddit and calgarypuck, people are either undecided or fine with how the UCP has handled the pandemic.
No, that's changing. We are hearing a lot of commentary, anecdotally speaking, amongst neighbours/friends/family etc, and they are ripping the UCP a new one over how this is being handled; standing in lines at the grocery store when I have to go out, there is a lot of negativity being voiced toward how this is being handled. As I said, anecdotal, but these are hardcore conservatives, that voted Kenney/UCP. I live in a riding that would elect a wet paper bag of cow dung if it slapped a Con/UCP sign on it, without thinking twice, so to be hearing the complaints is a new and interesting experience.
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As it should be. She provides one, albeit very valuable part of the equation. It is not her job, nor should it be, to make wide-sweeping policy decisions. She isn't accountable to the electorate.

Don't like what the UCP has done here? Make sure you hammer it home during the next election cycle. I think you'll be surprised that outside of the cozy socialist confines of twitter, reddit and calgarypuck, people are either undecided or fine with how the UCP has handled the pandemic.
Calgarypuck is socialist now? Hmm.
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Interesting story about the Oxford vaccine that illustrates why it's good that regulators are going to go over these tests rigorously before approving the vaccines.

The planned dosage schedule of two doses only ended up showing 62% efficacy. Not awful, but well below what Pfizer and Moderna showed and probably not effective for establishing herd immunity without near 100% uptake. However, when giving a 1/2 dose for the first injection, results were much better (about 90% efficacy, though in a very small sample).

The interesting part is, that 1/2 dose for the first injection was done by mistake. There was an error in the trial where a bunch of the participants were accidentally given partial first doses. The only reason they found out about it was because those people had much milder side effects than other groups and when they investigated, they realized the mistake. So they continued the study with a full 2nd dose and as it turns out, that group ended up having far fewer infections than the 2 full dose group.
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Old 11-23-2020, 04:24 PM   #5274
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He forgot to add the cozy socialist confines of Alberta.
Once you take away everyone who doesn’t like how Kenney and the government have handled the pandemic, you will find that people are undecided or have liked the way it has been handled.


Though, IMO, I think they were continuing to handle things decently, given the circumstances, till a few weeks back. The inaction has really hurt though.
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as it should be. She provides one, albeit very valuable part of the equation. It is not her job, nor should it be, to make wide-sweeping policy decisions. She isn't accountable to the electorate.

Don't like what the ucp has done here? Make sure you hammer it home during the next election cycle. I think you'll be surprised that outside of the cozy socialist confines of twitter, reddit and calgarypuck, people are either undecided or fine with how the ucp has handled the pandemic.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1328693537148461060
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Old 11-23-2020, 04:26 PM   #5276
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The Conservatism Albertans are actually used to and familiar with is old school Toryism. Whatever the UCP is doing is very much neo-liberalism. And Albertans are finding out the difference as they lose confidence in their government.

If anything the UCP are showing that most Albertans are actually in the middle. It just takes a disorganized, ill-prepared and arrogant administration bleeding ideological fervor to see it.

Any good Premier and Cabinet would have the CMOH worked into their decision making as an equal and respected contributor. Hinshaw deflecting to the "decision makers" is passively showing a rift between what she's probably recommending behind closed doors and what the UCP will actually adopt.
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