Ring Road To Nowhere

[BlackArcher101]

It's probably expandable, but didn't have the cash to finish the other two lanes. The Henday in Edmonton is only two and works just fine.

[Jayems]

Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

This road is terrible. Only two lanes? Who thought 2 lanes was a good idea, do they have a mentally challenged chimpanzee running their infrastructure planning?

There should be at least 4 lanes going each way.

Blasphemy!!!!!

I'm sure they'll upgrade it once the traffic gets heavier. Which will probably increase dramatically once the deerfoot link is opened. I think 2 should be alright for now.

[Jedi Ninja]

Originally Posted by Bownesian

You know that the Bragg Creek route is about 50km from city boundary to city boundary right?

I don't accept that a freeway over Weaselhead is a non-starter. The City built Stoney trail high above the Bow River and at ground level, you can barely tell that there is traffic above you. As far as the threat of a spill or something, we already have Glenmore Trail crossing the reservior so clearly accomodations can be made to make such a causeway safe.

There is significant additional cost in building an elevated road over such a span but elevated highways like that aren't anything new in the world. We are a million-person city. It's time we started thinking like one and spend the money to make it work.

Actually, traffic IS restricted over the Glenmore causeway, and traffic over the Weaselhead would also be restricted, which undermines the usefulness of such a road. Also, a road through the Weaselhead seems to go against the principals of the "Plan-It" guidelines that the City has proposed for future development.

The outer ring road definitely wouldn't serve SW commuter traffic, but it would provide a nice bypass route for truck and other traffic coming in from the South. This would lighten the load on McLeod and Glenmore I would think.

[You Need a Thneed]

2 lanes on some sections of the ring road will be fine - for quite a few years. The busier sections have three lanes. They have built everything with the potential to expand in the future.

If they are going to spend a little bit of extra money now, it would be FAR more worthwhile to get rid of the 2 remaining traffic lights.

[tvp2003]

Oh baby. It only took like 5 minutes to get from Harvest Hills Blvd to Sarcee... nothing like cruising at 100 km/h and avoiding the construction maze along Country Hills Blvd

[3 Justin 3]

Originally Posted by Jayems

Blasphemy!!!!!

I'm sure they'll upgrade it once the traffic gets heavier. Which will probably increase dramatically once the deerfoot link is opened. I think 2 should be alright for now.

Why not do it now while it is cheaper? In 5+ years when they realize it needs to be bigger, it is going to cost a fortune compared to now. F*** the budget and recession, do what is necessary.

[Old Yeller]

The next version of the SW ring road will involve anti-gravity cars in 2060.

[STeeLy]

Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

This road is terrible. Only two lanes? Who thought 2 lanes was a good idea, do they have a mentally challenged chimpanzee running their infrastructure planning?

There should be at least 4 lanes going each way.

What do you mean 2 lanes... It's 3 lanes I think from at least Harvest Hills all the way to Country Hills (Where it meets in the west corner of the ring road)

[SebC]

Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

Why not do it now while it is cheaper? In 5+ years when they realize it needs to be bigger, it is going to cost a fortune compared to now. F*** the budget and recession, do what is necessary.

Yay, a fellow Keynesian! Anything that needs to be built should be built while the economy needs the boost and it can be done cheaper.

[Jayems]

Any word on when the SE portion from 17th to 22x will start? I move to that area in 10 months... I need me some ring road!

[browna]

Originally Posted by Reaper

As a Southy, the rejection of the land deal pisses me off so much that I want the city to build an elevated (think plus 30) 37th Street with zero access to the Grey Eagle Casino to go with what will probably be a bridge over Glenmore Reservoir. Good luck getting people to your Casino from the south entrance to the reserve!

The most likely project will be 37th Street becoming a major artery. It would mean 100 Lakeview homes torn down. It would also likely mean that the 6 roads that have access to Lakeview off 37th would be eliminated to prevent people cutting through, leaving Crowchid the only way in and out of Lakeview.

I agree, that road to the Casino shouldnt have access from 37th (back then, or now), and its not a stretch to believe that any futher devlopment in that area will also try and use the 37th St access as the magical city funded road servicing native commerce.

However, for Lakeview, if the Casino access is in fact forced to build a road (we'll see how careful they are not to trample on thier own sacred land when that has to be built, just like the road to the concrete plant a few Km's in) from the south, there will be people likely still cutting through the area and parking a block away from 37th on residential streets to trudge over to the Casino, so there would have to be preventative measures to stop that from happening too.

[Glenflame]

Originally Posted by Jayems

Any word on when the SE portion from 17th to 22x will start? I move to that area in 10 months... I need me some ring road!

The owner team picked up their own consultants several monthes ago and now the Contractor is selecting their consultants. I guess the construction will start in the middle of next year (probably as early as March). There are so many issues to deal with before they start even if they have the money now.

[Ace]

My commute to the new costco just went from about 20 min to 4...YES!!!

Symons Valley to Trans Canada in about 13 min (and that includes a couple of lights)

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Jayems

Any word on when the SE portion from 17th to 22x will start? I move to that area in 10 months... I need me some ring road!

The P3 submission are due to come in in fall or early winter, then the winning bid will be chosen. Construction is supposed to start next spring.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

Why not do it now while it is cheaper? In 5+ years when they realize it needs to be bigger, it is going to cost a fortune compared to now. F*** the budget and recession, do what is necessary.

Building it would be a little cheaper today than tomorrow, yes. Maintaining it will easily eat away those savings, and then some.

I would completely agree with building an interchange designed to meet future needs, given the amount of disruption interchange construction causes. But adding extra lanes to a surface road is easily done, and can be done when it is most beneficial to do so.

[Bill Bumface]

Rocky Ridge to Cardel place in 16 minutes. Glorious! Huntington Hills back home, 13 minutes.

Good thing I'm moving in 20 days... just in time to not enjoy the Crowfoot LRT station or Stoney Trail for more than a month.

[Locke]

I tend to prefer that my ring roads lead to somewhere....preferably a pub, we could make a fortune, a road that just ends at a bar. No U-Turns.

Who wouldnt just shrug their shoulders and head in for a beer or 10?

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Locke

I tend to prefer that my ring roads lead to somewhere....preferably a pub, we could make a fortune, a road that just ends at a bar. No U-Turns.

Who wouldnt just shrug their shoulders and head in for a beer or 10?

I think that's what the Tsuu Tina were thinking when they killed the SW leg of it. Now it'll end at their casino or their gas station.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by 4X4

I think that's what the Tsuu Tina were thinking when they killed the SW leg of it. Now it'll end at their casino or their gas station.

There is some of that Native wisdom in action. Cheap cigarettes, fuel, alcohol and gambling in an inescapable roadblock spells doom for the average white man motorist. Hell, that's destroy me....

[Glenflame]

Originally Posted by 4X4

I think that's what the Tsuu Tina were thinking when they killed the SW leg of it. Now it'll end at their casino or their gas station.

They just want more money for them hanging around without doing anything all their life so that plan is not dead yet. As long as the City gets a new plan on the table to say "look, we have a new plan without passing through your land so you need to reconsideration your decision; or we will proceed with another plan and you guys will get nothing"